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Among the goodies you'll find herbal mailing list and newsgroup archives,
Michael Moore's files, and some nice WWW pages.
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6.6.1 FTP sites with info on medicinal herbs: ibiblio herb archives
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Try this: ftp ibiblio.org
/pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-medicine/ or ftp
sunSITE.sut.ac.jp
/pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-medicine/.
More here: ftp ibiblio.org
/pub/academic/agriculture/sustainable_agriculture/gardening/ or here: ftp
sunsite.sut.ac.jp
/pub/academic/agriculture/sustainable_agriculture/gardening/.
Still more: ftp ibiblio.org
pub/academic/agriculture/sustainable_agriculture/gardening/gardening-faqs/
or ftp sunsite.sut.ac.jp
/pub/academic/agriculture/sustainable_agriculture/gardening/gardening-faqs/
And you'll find a wealth of herbal information here - unfortunately not
very well organized, but if you do have the time to browse you'll find it
is a treasuretrove: ftp ibiblio.org
/pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-references/ or ftp
sunSITE.sut.ac.jp
/pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-references/
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6.6.2 Interesting WWW pages
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I'll only list the most important herbal WWW pages here. You'll find the
rest of the good sites from links on Howie's and my pages. And you should
use a search engine to look for information on specific plants.
* Michael Moore's homepage: http://www.swsbm.com , the Southwest School
of Botanical Medicine.
Have a good look at all the goodies; if you are not a beginner, get
the big textfiles - Herbal Materia Medica, Herbal Repertory,
Herbal/Medical Dictionary, Herbal-Medical Contraindications, Specific
Indications, Herbal Tinctures, Herbal Energetics, Plant Folders,
Classic Texts, and anything else that might have been added. There's
also a -lot- of pictures on site.
_Do_ download the Herbal Energetics - these are summaries of how to
prepare and use plants you already know in ways you already know (even
though you didn't necessarily know that you can use THAT plant in THIS
way before reading the booklet).
* Howie Brounstein's homepage:
http://www.teleport.com/~howieb/howie.html
Columbine and Wizardry Herbs, wildcrafting school and herb catalog.
Go get a laugh at the Fad herbs, or read up on smoking herbs, or
mugwort. Have fun.
* Jonathan Treasure's Herbal Bookworm page: http://www.herbological.com
All you need to know about herb books: excellent in-depth reviews, a
list of must-read books, a list of stinkers, and a Reality Check.
* The Health World Online site. - The healthy.net site is spamming
everybody and their uncle. Don't go there, and whatever you do, don't
email them using a real account; if you do, they'll spam you forever
and ever amen.
* Henriette's Herbal Homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed
Home of the herbfaqs (you're reading part of one right now), you'll
also find plant pictures, classic texts, plant names in several
languages, archives, links - it's an extensive site.
(Me? Biased? Naah.)
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6.7 Pointers to related documents
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* 6.7.1 Plants by Mail FAQ pointer
* 6.7.2 Carpal Tunnel Syndrome WWW page pointer
* 6.7.3 Hint for Kombucha posters
* 6.7.4 Hint for Essiac posters
* 6.7.5 Thinking of growing herbs for sale?
* 6.7.6 Saw Palmetto and Prostata problems: Newsgroup/FAQ pointer
* 6.7.7 Natural high FAQ pointer
* 6.7.8 Natural vision FAQ pointer
* 6.7.9 Smoking herbs document pointer
* 6.7.10 Pointer to herbal-medical glossary
* 6.7.11 Menopausal discomforts
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6.7.1 Plants by Mail FAQ pointer
Here you'll find lots and lots of catalogs to get living plants, and some
seeds, too: http://gardenwatchdog.com
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6.7.2 Carpal Tunnel Syndrome WWW page pointer
Take a look at the Carpal Tunnel Syndrome Home Page at
http://www.ctsplace.com/ and specifically, at
http://www.ctsplace.com/preventative.php
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6.7.3 Hint for Kombucha posters
Please subscribe to the Kombucha list (see 8.1.4). Do not post on
alt.folklore.herbs about Kombucha.
You could go visit the Kombucha Homepage, which should answer anyone's
questions about the subject: http://w3.trib.com/~kombu/
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6.7.4 Hint for Essiac posters
You can find a wealth of info on Essiac at this web location:
http://essiac-info.org/
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6.7.5 Thinking of growing herbs for sale?
Visit this site first: http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/
It's the Gateway to the NewCrop Resource Online Program at the Indiana
Center for New Crops and Plant Products at Purdue University; it has lots
of information about different plants.
Next go for Richters' FAQ pages: http://www.richters.com/QandA.html
Then go get the 'herb-growing.faq' on ibiblio (see 6.6).
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6.7.6 Saw Palmetto and Prostate Problems: Newsgroup/FAQ pointer
Try news:alt.support.prostate.prostatitis, where they also have an
excellent FAQ posted periodically.
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6.7.7 Natural High FAQ pointer
The hyperreal archive is gone - try the erowid vault:
http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/faqs/natural_highs_faq.shtml
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6.7.8 Natural vision FAQ pointer
This interesting document can be found here:
http://www.cia.com.au/vic/faq.html
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6.7.9 Smoking herbs document pointer
THE document on herbal smokes, which also tells you how to stop smoking, is
Howie Brounstein's Herbal Smoking Mixtures -booklet. You'll find it here:
http://www.teleport.com/~howieb/howie.html .
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6.7.10 Pointer to herbal-medical glossary
I got email 'yes but what does MAO inhibitor and adrenergenics and
cholinergics mean?' ... so here's a pointer to Michael Moore's medicinese -
English dictionary: http://www.swsbm.com/ManualsMM/MedHerbGloss2.txt
you get there from Michael Moore's Clinical Herb Manuals page:
http://www.swsbm.com/ManualsMM/MansMM.html
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6.7.11 Menopausal discomforts
A very good place to start is the alt.support.menopause newsgroup. Next,
check this page: http://www.geocities.com/menobeyond/ . Also see the entry
on wild yam, 2.12
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7 Schools etc.
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So you want to to to a herb school? There's lots. Which are the good ones?
Which will give you value for your money and which will hand you fancy
gold-plated diplomas instead of the knowledge you went there for? Which are
the ones where you'll have to arrive with a chastity belt firmly locked in
order to avoid the teachers' amorous advances? Where will you learn all
about goats and rather less about herbs?
The best way to find out juicy bits like that is to attend a herbal
conference or two, and _gossip_. I can recommend the Southwest conference
for that myself, as I've been to that one (watch me listen to horror
stories with my chin on my collarbone...), but I expect others will be
equally enlightening.
Note, the herb school I attended gave excellent value for the money; the
diploma is factual and not that fancy; I didn't learn squat about goats;
and I didn't have to fend off any of the teachers, either. All this before
I attended even one conference... lucky me, eh?
There is no really comprehensive up-to-date list of herbal schools
anywhere. I've put some schools into my list; there are other lists
elsewhere. Here's a few:
* The Natural Healers site lists a few (American) herb schools - sort
them by specialty and/or location: http://www.naturalhealers.com
* The American Herbalists guild has put parts of their (US) Herbal
Education Directory online:
http://www.americanherbalistsguild.com/school_search.htm - the $12
version of the same includes descriptions etc., at least according to
their site: http://www.americanherbalistsguild.com
* The American Herb Association also has compiled a list of (US)
schools: http://www.ahaherb.com - theirs costs $3.50.
* Herbnet also lists schools: http://www.herbnet.com/university_p1.htm
Whichever school you choose, do read the accreditation notes on this page -
otherwise you might end up taking a correspondence course at Clayton.
(Why do I dislike Clayton? A real ND degree means that you can
get a license to legally practise as an ND a few states in the
US. The real thing also took about four years of hands-on
training. In comparison, Clayton's mail order ND degree isn't
worth the paper it's printed on. As long as Clayton hands out ND
degrees without having the real ND degree backing they're a
diploma mill in my eyes - and I have a real dislike for diploma
mills. Let them call it something else, something with no real
significance (which is what correspondence school diplomas should
be), and I'll withdraw all my objections to their operations.
Until then, pffshaw.)
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7.1 Some hands-on schools I know of in the US
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ND degrees:
These schools give you -real- ND degrees, with the possibility to get a ND
license in one of the licensing states. There are also fake ND schools -
read about those here: 7.6, Accreditation.
* Southwest College of Naturopathic Medicine & Health Sciences. Tempe,
Arizona. http://www.scnm.edu/
* Bastyr University. Kenmore, WA. http://www.bastyr.edu/
* University of Bridgeport, College of Naturopathic Medicine.
Bridgeport, CT. http://www.bridgeport.edu/naturopathy/
* National College of Naturopathic Medicine. Portland, OR.
http://www.ncnm.edu/ (Needs flash, which I abhor.)
Other herbal hands-on schools:
Full-time:
* Southwest School of Botanical Medicine, Michael Moore. Bisbee,
Arizona. http://www.swsbm.com/
* The Rocky Mountain Herbal Institute, Hot Springs, MT. Mainly Chinese
herbology. http://www.rmhiherbal.org
* California School of Herbal Studies, Forestville, CA.
http://www.cshs.com/
* The North American College of Botanical Medicine (formerly the
National College of Phytotherapy), Albuquerque, NM.
http://www.swcp.com/botanicalmedicine
* Desert Woman Botanicals, Monica Rude, Gila, NM. Several 3-month
apprenticeships in medicinal herb growing, harvesting, drying,
marketing, shipping, use in products. Enthusiastic, hard working
workers interested in herb growing should apply.
http://www.desertwoman.net/
* NorthEast School of Botanical Medicine, 7Song. Ithaca, NY. A
six-month, three days a week school:
http://www.ph.utexas.edu/~wolfe/NSBM/NSBMcur.html
Part-time:
* Howie Brounstein, Columbines and Wizardry Herbs, Inc., Eugene, Oregon.
A wildcrafting class. http://www.teleport.com/~howieb/howie.html
* Pacific School of Herbal Medicine, Adam Seller. Oakland, California.
Classes range from a couple of hours (for beginners) through 650 hours
(to become a professional herbalist). Adam also has clinical case
studies for the practising herbalist. http://www.pshm.org
* Christopher Hobbs, Williams, OR. 8 month apprenticeship program, one
weekend a month. http://www.christopherhobbs.com
* Herbal Therapeutics, David Winston. Broadway, NJ. A two-year school
with classes one evening a week. http://www.herbaltherapeutics.net
* Rosemary Gladstar, Vermont. 12 month apprenticeship program, one
weekend a month. http://www.sagemountain.com
* Althea Northage-Orr, Chicago, IL. Evening classes.
http://www.chicagocollegeofhealingarts.com
I don't know if these are full- or part time:
* Susun Weed has intensives and correspondence courses:
http://www.susunweed.com
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7.2 Some hands-on schools in Canada
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ND degree:
This school gives you a -real- ND degree, with the possibility to get a ND
license in one of the licensing states. There are also fake ND schools -
read about those here: 7.6, Accreditation
* The Canadian College of Naturopathic Medicine, Toronto, Ontario.
http://www.ccnm.edu
Other herbal hands-on schools:
* Dominion Herbal College, Burnaby, B.C. http://www.dominionherbal.com
* Mohawk College of Applied Arts & Technology, Hamilton, Ontario. This
is phytotherapy, not herbalism, but then I'm a snob.
http://www.mohawkc.on.ca/dept/cehs/phytotherapy.html
* Wild Rose College of Natural Healing, Terry Willard. Calgary, Alberta.
http://www.wrc.net/
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7.3 Some correspondence courses I know of in the US
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It's rather difficult to judge these from their ads. I've added "good" to
those which I've only heard good things about.
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* Rosemary Gladstar has a correspondence course.
http://www.sagemountain.com
"good"
* The Australasian College of Herbal Studies. http://www.herbed.com
"good"
* David Hoffmann, Therapeutic Herbalism. If you would like more
information, his address is:
2068 Ludwig Avenue, Santa Rosa, CA 95407. 707/544-7210. Stuck in the
stoneage, eh, David, with no URL yet? I'll drop this one in my next
update, because addresses and phone numbers change, and I can't check
them from here.
* Christopher Hobbs Home study course. http://www.christopherhobbs.com
* Jeanne Rose has a correspondence course. http://www.jeannerose.net
* The School of Natural Healing, founded by Dr. John R. Christopher.
They have an Herbalist course and a Master Herbalist course, among
others. http://schoolofnaturalhealing.com
* The East-West Herb Course, Michael Tierra. This is TCM, not western
herbalism. http://www.planetherbs.com
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7.4 Some schools and correspondence courses elsewhere
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* The School of Natural Health Sciences, London, UK.
http://www.learnbymail.com/courses/herbalism.htm
* The Waikato Centre for Herbal Medicine is in New Zealand. Graduates
are able to become full Professional Members of the NZ Association of
Medical Herbalists.
The course is 4 year, three years at college (one day a week) and the
4th year is working alongside a Registered Medical Herbalist in
Clinical Training. There is also a correspondence programme.
http://www.herbalcentre.co.nz
* The International College of Herbal Medicine, in New Zealand.
http://www.HerbCollege.com
The UK Herb Society has a Herbs educational resources page with more UK
schools: http://www.herbsociety.org.uk/education.htm
The NIMH (the National Institute of Medical Herbalists, UK) also lists some
schools; unfortunately, their list is rather out of date:
http://www.nimh.org.uk
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7.5 About correspondence schools, and licensing of herbalists
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From: tim.thorne.thorne.com (Tim Birdsall, ND)
I have absolutely no quarrel with distance learning. However there is a
substantive difference between getting an MBA by home study and getting a
health care degree! How can you learn physical diagnosis without someone
standing over your shoulder saying "No, the spleen is here." or "Yes, this
person's liver feels enlarged." To the best of my knowledge, no other
health care profession has any legitimate degrees offered exclusively via
home study.
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7.6 Accreditation of ND schools and ND licensing in the US
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From: Paul Bergner
Subject: Clayton School
Someone recently posted that the Clayton School had obtained
"accreditation". By what body, may I ask? Is it something recognized by the
Department of Education, or is it some form of gratuitous
self-accreditation? The test of legitimacy is whether students are eligible
for government student loans.
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From Henriette:
Clayton's "ND" degree won't get you a ND license in the states where ND
licensing is possible. If you want a _real_ ND degree you need to attend
one of the real ND schools mentioned above.
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The accrediting agency for naturopathic schools is the Council on
Naturopathic Medical Education (CNME), Eugene OR. http://www.cnme.org
The CNME is accredited by the US Department of Education and is the only
recognized licensing agency for naturopathic medical schools in the US.
States in which you can get licensed as an ND:
If you're an ND who has graduated from one of the eligible ND schools you
can get licensed in these states:
Alaska, Arizona, Connecticut, Hawaii, New Hampshire, Montana, Oregon,
Vermont, Washington, Utah,
after passing the Naturopathic Physicians Licensing Exam (NPLEx).
There are additional recognized ND licenses in Florida. No new licenses are
being granted there, however.
British Columbia and Ontaria currently license NDs who pass licensing exams
and who have graduated from any of the legitimate naturopathic medical
schools with an ND.
Other resources:
Federation of Naturopathic Medical Licensing Boards, Inc., 5002 W Glendale
Ave, Ste 101, Glendale, AZ 85301, USA, phone 602-937-4756.
American Association of Naturopathic Physicians (AANP), Seattle, WA.
http://www.naturopathic.org/
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8 Related forums
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8.1 Mailing lists
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Mailing lists have a distinct advantage over the online WWW chat pages: you
don't have to be online. Just pull down your email from the server, and
read and reply at leisure. It's lots cheaper for those of us who pay phone
and/or ISP by the minute (this includes most Europeans).
In addition the lists mentioned below there's Herbal Hall, a low-volume,
high-quality list for professional herbalists, but that's by invitation
only.
Any other lists you think should be here? Any changes in the lists listed?
You can try a search on "herb" on these list listers:
http://groups.yahoo.com/ , http://www.topica.com , http://www.tile.net and
http://www.lsoft.com .
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8.1.1 The Herblist
(Alive and well. Oct03)
A high-volume list for discussions about herbal medicine and medicinal
herbs.
To subscribe: go to the mailman site:
http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/herb
or write to herb-request@lists.ibiblio.org with only the following text:
subscribe
Be sure to read the Rules before posting:
http://ibiblio.org/herbmed/archives/herblist/rules.html
Archives found here: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed/archives.html
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8.1.2 The Aromatherapy List
(Alive and well. Mar02)
To subscribe, write to list@idma.com with the following text: join
aromatherapy
The problem with this list, as per several emails in December 00 from
former aromatherapy listmembers, is that it's become extremely chatty, with
next to no aromatherapy posts. If that changes I'd appreciate an update.
Two less contentious and slightly slower lists with aromatherapy:
The Essentials List:
to subscribe: write to essentials@naturesgift.com with just SUBSCRIBE
in the subject line, and no text.
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8.1.3 The Kombucha List
(Alive and well. Dec00)
To subscribe: write to kombucha-subscribe@topica.com
Website here: http://lists.topica.com/lists/kombucha/ and here:
http://w3.trib.com/~kombu/
Pretty good for newbies but mostly the same stuff over and over and over.
Good FAQ.
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8.1.4 The Paracelsus List
(Alive and well. Oct03)
Subscription is limited to practitioners, educators, researchers and
students in alternative and conventional medical fields.
To subscribe: visit this site:
http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/paracelsus and follow the
instructions, or write to paracelsus-request@lists.ibiblio.org with the
following text: subscribe
As part of the subscription approval process, send a biographical note
indicating training, practice and interests to the list at
paracelsus@lists.ibiblio.org.
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8.1.5 The Homeopathy List
(Alive and well. High volume, no chat. Dec00)
To subscribe: write to homeopathy-request@lyghtforce.com with the subject:
subscribe
The archives for this list and a FAQ on homeopathy are kept on
http://www.homeopathyhome.com/web/descriptions/homlist.shtml
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8.1.7 The Culinary Herblist
(Briefly alive in season. Oct03)
This is the list for the gardening and use of culinary herbs:
To subscribe: write to: Majordomo@oregonvos.net with the text: subscribe
herbs-l
Archives found here: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed/archives.html
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8.1.9 The Wellpet List
(Alive and well. Dec00)
A list for a holistic approach to animal health.
To subscribe: write to: majordomo@imagicomm.com with the text: sub wellpet
Webpage: http://www.listservice.net/wellpet/
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8.1.10 The Holisticat List
(Alive and well. Chatty. Oct03).
A chatty list for the use of nutrition, herbs, homeopathy, acupuncture etc.
as it relates to cats.
To subscribe: write to: majordomo@vlists.net with the text: subscribe
holisticat
OR the text: subscribe holisticat-digest
The list FAQs, archived old posts, articles etc. are available here:
http://www.holisticat.com
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8.1.12 The Apothecary List
(Almost dead. Mar02)
A list for preparing oils, ointments and suchlike. I'm told that the
chatters have moved on.
To subscribe: write to: apothecary-request@kjsl.com with the
text: subscribe
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8.1.13 The HolisticBird List
(alive and well. Oct03)
The HolisticBird list focuses on natural health for birds. Most of the
discussions are around bird diseases, nutrition, and herbs, but there is
occasional contributions about homeopathy and other modalities.
To subscribe: write to HolisticBird-subscribe@yahoogroups.com, URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HolisticBird/
HolisticBird Newsletter http://www.holisticbirds.com
HolisticBird Website http://www.holisticbird.org
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8.1.14 The Toiletries List
(Alive and well. Many many ads. Oct03)
A list for various aspects of making your own lotions, cremes, soaps,
personal care products, and related subjects.
To subscribe: write to: 1Toiletries-subscribe@yahoogroups.com , URL:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/1Toiletries/
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8.1.16 The Aboutherbs List
(Almost dead. Oct03)
A list focused more on growing and preserving herbs. Animal health and
natural beauty are ontopic, as are herbs for health.
To subscribe: write to aboutherbs-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
Website found here: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/aboutherbs/
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8.1.17 The UK Herbal List
(Alive and well. Oct03)
The ukherbal -list for practitioners in Europe is closed, low on volume and
high on quality. If you wish to join, and are a practitioner in Europe,
send an email with your resume to gcwhite.ntlworld.comx (no x).
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8.1.18 The Herbgardening List
(Alive and well. Oct03)
To subscribe: write to herbgardening-subscribe@yahoogroups.com , URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/herbgardening
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8.1.19 The Forageahead List
(Alive and well. Oct03)
To subscribe: write to forageahead-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
Website found here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/forageahead/
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8.1.20 The HolisticPet List
(Alive and well. Oct03)
To subscribe: write to holisticpet-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
Website found here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HolisticPet/
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8.2 Related newsgroups
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You might want too check
* alt.folklore.herbs (archives found here:
http://ibiblio.org/herbmed/archives.html)
* misc.health.alternative
* rec.gardens
* rec.gardens.edible
* rec.food.preserving
* bionet.plants
* sci.med.*
* alt.healing.flower-essence
* alt.support.cancer.prostate
* alt.support.sinusitis
* alt.support.prostate.prostatitis
* alt.support.*
* alt.aromatherapy (comes complete with the usual complaint: 'my site
doesn't carry this one' - well, mine doesn't, so I can't say what they
talk about over there)
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8.4 Newsgroup (and mailing list) netiquette
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Here's a good page on snipping as you go: http://learn.to/quote .
Another good page is among the FAQs found in news:news.announce.newusers ,
a resource all usenet (= newsgroup) newbies should make themselves familiar
with: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/posting-rules/part1/
The main rule is, contributors to these forums are real live people - so
don't be a jerk. And remember, Things get Archived.
All of usenet (except binary groups, but read their FAQs), and most mailing
lists are plain text. Email, too, is plain text. That means you should not
use any kind of html nor any kind of graphics in your posts and/or emails.
Also please note that most people who've been around for a while use email
and/or usenet programs that don't even see your nicely formatted text -
they see the html code instead. It's gibberish. Take my word for it.
Also, a lot of people (including most Europeans) still pay for their online
time and/or their phone by the minute. Yes, European phone companies charge
for local calls, too. Some Europeans even pay their ISP (internet service
provider) by the byte. Html code and graphics in your posts and emails make
for longer downloads, and thus, for higher cost.
So change your habits -- and your email program settings. People on slow
lines, people who pay by the minute or by the byte, and usenet and email
"oldbies" will thank you for your consideration.
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8.5 Dealing with spam and trolls
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Instead of fretting over commercial posts, we all should take a cool
approach to the problem. Whenever I see a message like "Make quick cash!",
"Great Anti-Cellulite Cream!", "Don't be Lonely!", "Earn $50,000 a week!"
or something along those lines, I forward the message to the postmaster
where the message originated from, explaining why I find the post
inappropriate or offensive. Chances are that the postmaster will look into
the issue and have a talk with the abuser, if not go ahead and cancel
his/her account altogether (has been known to happen).
If the offensive message originated at an academic institution, then I know
I am going to get the sucker in a lot of trouble. Universities have strong
policies about the misuse of their computer resources. It is likely that
after receiving complaints, the offenders will lose their accounts, and in
addition experience the wrath of some disciplinary committee.
So, for the good sake of the net, if you see a commercial message posted by
idiot.morons.are.us, forward the message with a piece of your mind to
postmaster.morons.are.us. You will be doing everyone a favor.
Gloria Mercado-Martin
desidia.community.net
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The same goes for trolls. Also, the right thing to do about trolls is to
report, killfile, and forget. If you react to a troll on a newsgroup you
are feeding it. If you ignore the troll it'll go back under its bridge
sooner or later. Trolling: sending off-topic and/or inflammable messages to
newsgroups and/or mailing lists. For example, posting anti-herbal messages
to a herbal newsgroup.
A note on finding correct abuse addresses: I quite like
http://www.spamcop.net
You'll find more hints on news:news.admin.net-abuse.* - these newsgroups
are very flammable because they attract the wrath of the spammers they
fight, but you will find information on how to fight spam, unwanted ads,
unwanted binaries in non-binary newsgroups, and UCE (unsolicited commercial
email). Have fun!
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THE END.
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--
Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland
Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed
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