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**alt.music.dance**
This is not about dancing but about what's called Dance Music,
nowadays. Techno pop and all that. A lot of it actually makes for
solid, if rather peppy, hustle music.
**alt.music.makers.dj**
Should be clear what it is about. Not exactly about dancing, but I'm
listing it, since it may be of interest to some dancers.
**alt.music.polka**
Not widely spread. The discussion is mostly about polka music (in
particular recordings) and musicians, but polka dancing is discussed
occasionally.
Is there dancing on the World Wide Web? (3.2)
---------------------------------------------
There are many dance-related web pages. You need a Hypertext browser
such as Mosaic for this. Most of these pages connect to each other, and
to more dance information. See the APPENDIX to this FAQ document as
well.
Here are a few resources through which you should be able to find
most of the other information.
**Dancers' Archive**
Your main on-line resource for dance info is the Dancers' Archive,
maintained by Eileen Bauer ecb@world.std.com . The archive is available
through the web or by ftp:
ftp://ftp.std.com/customers/nonprofits/dance/
. See point (2.8) below for further explanation.
**Dance page at the World-Wide-Web Virtual Library**
This page is maintained by Adam S. Moskowitz adamm@world.std.com . He
plans to list organizations that are somehow related to dance of any
kind, as well as other dance-related resources. The organizations will
be listed by name, dance type, and location. Information is to be
submitted to dancemaster@menlo.com .
This page will accept information about *any* type of dance:
performance or participatory, historical, scholarly, whatever. If you
send it, it gets put on the page.
Note that all the maintainer does is taking the information that
people send him and putting it on the page. If you want something about
your group to appear on the page, write it up and send it in. If you
want something about a group with which you're not affiliated to
appear, contact someone IN THAT GROUP and ask them to write something
and HAVE THEM send it to him.
http://www.menlo.com/menlo/dance/
**Henry Neeman's hotlist**
A large collection of links to pages concerned with all sorts of
(mostly social) dance:
http://zeus.ncsa.uiuc.edu:8080/~hneeman/dance_hotlist.html
.
What about mailing lists? (3.3)
-------------------------------
**Ballroom**
There are TWO ballroom mailing lists for discussion of any aspect of
ballroom, swing, and related dancing (e.g., places to dance,
announcement of special events, exchange of information about clubs,
ballroom dance music, discussion of dances, steps, technique, dance
etiquette); one is moderated (BALLRM-M) and the other unmoderated
(BALLROOM). BALLRM-M receives a proper subset of articles sent to
BALLROOM. Each is also available as a digest (daily for BALLROOM and
weekly for BALLRM-M). To subscribe, send e-mail to
listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with the following command(s) in the BODY of
the message (replace LISTNAME with BALLROOM or BALLRM-M):
subscribe LISTNAME Yourfirstname Yourlastname
set LISTNAME digest
(Use the second command only if you want a digest format.)
Note that BALLROOM is gatewayed to the Usenet Newsgroup
rec.arts.dance. Anything mailed to the list is posted to
rec.arts.dance, and anything *ballroom-related* in rec.arts.dance is
mailed to the list.
This list is sponsored by the MIT Ballroom Dance Club, at the
Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Room W20-401, Cambridge,
Massachusetts 02139, USA.
Questions: ballroom-request@mitvma.mit.edu (Shahrukh Merchant).
**Country Western Dance (excluding line dancing)**
This is a public unmoderated electronic mailing list for discussion of
ANY aspect of the various Country Western dances (but see below for
line dances!). That would include, but is not limited to, any of the
following: Two-Step, Waltz, Polka,East Coast Swing, West Coast Swing,
Cha-Cha. Rhythm Two-Step, Triple Two-Step, Pony (also called Pony
Swing), Schottische, Southern-style (`Sweetheart') Schottische, and
line dances. If you're not sure this list covers your dance type,
please feel free to email the list. ECS or WCS discussions that are not
strictly CW-related should probably be on
rec.arts.dance/ballroom@mitvma.mit.edu
Possible topics include, but are not limited to, teachers,
performances, music, videos, books, history, the future of the various
dance forms, major people, clothes/shoes, technique, etc.
Anyone can join the list by sending e-mail to majordomo@world.std.com
with a "subscribe cw-dance" command (without the quotes) in the body of
the message.
There is currently no FAQ (list of Frequently Asked Questions) for
this list, but I'd really like to see (at least) one happen. If you
have a possible contribution, please share it with the list! If you're
interested in organizing creation of a FAQ, please contact Eileen Bauer
at cw-dance-request@world.std.com .
This list will be archived at
ftp://ftp.std.com/ftp/nonprofits/dance/CW-dance
(note caps) as well as the books, videos, and music directories
directly under the dance directory where appropriate.
This mailing list has a one-way receiving gateway from
rec.music.country.western . That is, any post to that newsgroup with a
c&w dance related term in the subject or keywords line will be sent to
the cw-dance mailing list. Additionally, the mailing list is connected
to the newsgroup rec.arts.dance in both directions: anything posted to
the list is sent to the newsgroup, and replies made on the newsgroup
are sent back to the list. This last action is guaranteed by the
keywords line generated by the list->newsgroup gateway, so if your news
software does not copy the keywords line in a follow-up post, that post
will not be gated back to the list.
People whose posts to rec.music.country.western are sent to the
mailing list, are notified of this, once.
**Country Western Line Dancing**
To subscribe to the line-dance mailing list, email
majordomo@world.std.com with the following line in the body: subscribe
line-dance
This is a public electronic mailing list for distribution and
discussion of line dances. This includes at least the following dance
types/styles: o Line dance line-dances (e.g., Memphis Push Tush aka
tush push) o Circle dances (e.g. Cherokee Kick) o Contra line dances
(e.g., contra waltz) o Couple stationary non-2-step-type dances (eg.,
Stationary or Denver Cha Cha) o Couples (and singles) progressive
non-2-step-type dances (e.g., long branch hussle, ten step polka,
Tennessee Walk, Sway, Sweetheart Schottische)
The list is moderated so as to standardize the format of the line
dances that get posted. All line dances that get posted are archived as
separate files at one ftp site:
ftp://ftp.std.com/nonprofits/dance/CW-dance/dancesteps
. Because the list is moderated, your posts to the list may take
anywhere from several hours to several days to get mirrored back to
you, so please be patient.
**Lindy Hop**
There is a Swedish-based mailing list and archive for information
about Lindy Hop, with a focus on Lindy in Europe. Maintainer is Oliver
Trepte,
Subscribe: send an email with the body text "subscribe lindy" to
majordomo@fysik4.kth.se . Emails to lindy@fysik4.kth.se are forwarded
to the list members.
Further info: send an email with the body text "info lindy" to
majordomo@fysik4.kth.se .
**Tango**
The unmoderated mailing list "TANGO-L" has been created for
discussion about any and all aspects of the dance of Tango Argentino
(Argentine Tango). It is specifically intended to cover the Argentine
form of this dance, rather than the International Standard or American
Social "ballroom" forms, but articles about the latter may be
appropriate insofar as they are being contrasted to or otherwise refer
to the Argentine form.
The mailing list is set up as a reflector, so that any article mailed
to the list at tango-L@mitvma.mit.edu will be redistributed
automatically to all subscribers of the list. This list is available
in a (daily) digest form.
Anyone can subscribe by sending a message to listserv@mitvma.mit.edu ,
with the following command in the BODY of the message (the "Subject:"
line is ignored):
subscribe tango-L Your Full Name
set tango-L digest
(Use the second command only if you want a digest format, and remember
to replace "Your Full Name" with your real full name--spaces,
punctuation, etc. are fine.)
This mailing list is being sponsored by the MIT Ballroom Dance Club,
at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Room W20-401, Cambridge,
Massachusetts, USA.
Questions: tango-L-request@mitvma.mit.edu (Shahrukh Merchant).
**Folk and traditional**
There is a mailing list for ``all aspects of traditional and folk
dancing''. Send a message "subscribe dance-l Your Full Name" to
listserv@hearn.bitnet to subscribe.
Here are some more. They are taken from the mail/mailing-lists FAQ (14
parts!) and may duplicate the above information.
**Folk-dancing**
Contact: tjw+@pitt.edu (Terry J. Wood) tjw@pittvms.bitnet
Purpose: Any discussion of FOLK dancing. Areas of dance would include,
but not be limited to: international, contra, square, western square,
morris, cajun, and barn dancing, etc.
Please feel free to discuss such things as touring groups, artists,
camps, workshops, styling, equipment, recordings, and so on. This
mailing list also welcomes queries about where to find dance groups and
how to get started dancing.
Please note that the Folk Dancing Mailing List (FDML) operates in
conjunction with the USENET newsgroup rec.folk-dancing . Material in
Rec.folk-dancing appears in the FDML. This mailing list is primarily
for people who can not (or do not wish to) receive USENET.
When subscribing to the FDML, please include several computer mail
addresses AND a postal mail address (or phone number) as a last resort.
**Morris**
Morris Dancing Discussion List MORRIS@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU
The Morris Dancing Discussion List (MDDL) is an unmoderated
listserv-based discussion group devoted to discussions, debates, and
rants on all things Morris, including: Cotswold, Border, Garland,
Northwest, etc.; Sword Dancing, both Long Sword and Short Sword
(Rapper); Mumming, Mumming plays and other ritual drama; Molly Dancing,
Abbotts Bromley, Plough Dancing; winter festivals such as Twelfth
Night; May Day celebrations, including May Poles and other rural
festivities; and anything else we can think of that might be even the
slightest bit Morris related. Beer comes up fairly often, for some
reason, as does singing, tune trading, discussions of musical
instruments, (you get the idea).
The listowners are: Jim Morgan (Bloomington Quarry Morris)
morganj@iupui.edu and Tom Keays (Bassett Street Hounds)
htkeays@mailbox.syr.edu .
**Renaissance dance**
Contact: listserv@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
Purpose: RENDANCE is for discussion of Renaissance dance. The intended
focus is dance reconstruction and related research, but discussion on
any relevant topic is welcomed.
List owner: Andrew Draskoy andrew@bransle.ucs.mun.ca
Web page:
http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~andrew/rendance.html
**Strathspey**
Contact: strathspey-request@math.uni-frankfurt.de
Purpose: A forum for the discussion of all aspects of Scottish Country
Dancing, e.g., dance descriptions, dancing technique, the history of
dances and dancing, learning or teaching how to dance. We also welcome
descriptions of new dances, announcements of events like courses or
balls, or anything the subscribers might find interesting.
The mailing list is unmoderated, i.e. everything that is submitted is
forwarded directly to the subscribers of the list. We hope to be able
to offer an archive of past traffic if the demand should arise.
Subscription/info requests should be directed to
strathspey-request@math.uni-frankfurt.de
Just send a message with the word `subscribe' in the `Subject:' header
to subscribe to the list.
To reach a human for special requests or problems, send mail to
owner-strathspey@math.uni-frankfurt.de .
**Dance and Technology**
Send a message with body "subscribe dance-tech firstname lastname" to
listserver@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu . For further info contact Scott A.
Sutherland, ssutherl@magnus.acs.ohio.state.edu .
**Physical Education**
PE-talk is a mailing list in digest form: every day exactly one
message is sent out containing all contributions of the previous day.
Send a message with body 'subscribe' to
pe-talk-digest-request@lists.sportime.com .
**UK-DANCE**
Contact: listserv@tqmcomms.co.uk
Purpose: UK-DANCE is a mailing list for discussion about all aspects
of dance music culture in the UK: clubs, raves, clubs, record shops,
radio, records and anything else to do with the underground dance music
scene.
To subscribe to the list, write to listserv@tqmcomms.co.uk with
'subscribe uk-dance YOUR NAME' as the first line in the message body,
replacing YOUR NAME with your real name, not your e-mail address. A
digest version is also available - details upon subscription.
**Ballet-modern**
This is a public unmoderated electronic mailing list for discussion of
ballet and/or modern dance.
Anyone can join the list by sending e-mail to majordomo@world.std.com
with a "subscribe ballet-modern" command (without the quotes) in the
body of the message.
This list will be archived at
ftp://ftp/nonprofits/dance/ballet-modern
as well as the books, videos, and music directories directly under the
dance directory where appropriate.
The newsgroup alt.arts.ballet (3.1) is gatewayed daily to the list. A
more robust gateway will be available shortly.
**Tap and jazz**
This is a public unmoderated electronic mailing list for discussion of
ANY aspect of Tap and Jazz dance. Possible topics include, but are not
limited to, teachers, performances, music, videos, books, history, the
future of tap and jazz, major people, technique, etc.
Anyone can join the list by sending e-mail to majordomo@world.std.com
with a "subscribe tap-jazz" command (without the quotes) in the body of
the message.
There is currently no FAQ (list of Frequently Asked Questions) for
this list, but I'd really like to see (at least) one happen. If you
have a possible contribution, please share it with the list! If you're
interested in organizing creation of a FAQ, please contact me at
tap-jazz-request@world.std.com .
This list will be archived @ftp.std.com /ftp/nonprofits/dance/tap-jazz
as well as the books, videos, and music directories directly under the
dance directory where appropriate.
**Flamenco**
This is a public unmoderated electronic mailing list started as the
result of discussions about flamenco guitar playing on
rec.music.classical.guitar but is intended to support the discussion of
all relevant aspects of the flamenco tradition. It was originally at
another site: flamenco@tethys.nswc.navy.mil, but moved on Oct. 28,
1994.
Possible topics include, but are not limited to, teachers,
performances, music, videos, books, history, the future of flamenco,
major people, technique, etc.
Anyone can join the list by sending e-mail to majordomo@world.std.com
with a "subscribe flamenco" command (without the quotes) in the body of
the message.
This list will be archived @ftp.std.com /ftp/nonprofits/dance/flamenco
as well as the med-dance, books, videos, and music directories directly
under the dance directory where appropriate.
For more information about flamenco, including reviews and
discographies, see the Flamenco Guitar Home Page found on WWW at the
following URL (uniform resource locator):
http://www.teleport.com/~jdimick/fg.html
An additional source of flamenco & related information is the
med-dance mailing list. It covers the various Mediterranean dance
types, including any of the folkloric dances from countries that, for
the most part have a coast on the Mediterranean Sea. With that in mind,
med-dance would be an additional place to discuss flamenco as well as
other types of Spanish dance, as well as belly dance and the various
Middle Eastern folkloric dances, along with Greek dancing.
**Mediterranean-dance (including Belly Dancing)**
This is a public unmoderated electronic mailing list for discussion of
ANY aspect of the various Mediterranean dance types. That would include
any of the folkloric dances from countries that, for the most part have
a coast on the Mediterranean Sea. With that in mind, this list would be
a place to discuss flamenco and Spanish dance, belly dance and the
various Middle Eastern folkloric dances, as well Greek dancing. If
you're not sure this list covers your dance type, please feel free to
email the list.
Possible topics include, but are not limited to, teachers,
performances, music, videos, books, history, the future of the various
dance forms, major people, cloths/shoes, technique, etc.
Anyone can join the list by sending e-mail to majordomo@world.std.com
with a "subscribe med-dance" command (without the quotes) in the body
of the message.
There is currently no FAQ (list of Frequently Asked Questions) for
this list, but I'd really like to see (at least) one happen. If you
have a possible contribution, please share it with the list! If you're
interested in organizing creation of a FAQ, please contact me at
med-dance-request@world.std.com .
This list will be archived @ftp.std.com
/ftp/nonprofits/dance/med-dance as well as the books, videos, and music
directories directly under the dance directory where appropriate.
**More information about using the Majordomo lists: cw-dance tap-jazz ballet-modern med-dance flamenco**
You may leave the list completely at any time by sending an
"unsubscribe listname" command (without the quotes) to
majordomo@world.std.com . Note: replace the word listname with
whichever one of the following is appropriate: cw-dance tap-jazz
ballet-modern med-dance flamenco.
For more information about majordomo commands, put "help" in the body
of a message (without the quotes) and send it to
majordomo@world.std.com.
Where do I find specific danceforms? (3.4)
------------------------------------------
Here are some pointers to web sites and other information sources about
specific danceforms, not necessarily partner dance or social dance.
**Belly dance**
There is a mailing list (3.3) and a web site
http://cie-2.uoregon.edu/bdance/
.
**Breakdancing**
I only know of this web site:
http://weber.u.washington.edu/~bock/bd/bd.html
**Carolina Shag**
A page for Shag dancing, specifically around Atlanta GA.
http://www.mindspring.com/~stancom/shag.html
[stan mislow stancom@mindspring.com ]
**Clogging**
A web page maintained by Julie Mangin jmangin@nal.usda.gov
http://www.access.digex.net/~jmangin/
**Contra dancing**
There is a web site: http://www.voicenet.com/~squeeze/contras.html , a
newsgroup news:rec.folk-dancing and several mailing lists; section
(3.3) .
**Flamenco**
There are several web sites devoted to Flamenco dancing and guitar
playing; a good list can be found on
http://www.rpi.edu/~ruberd/dancelnk.html
. There is a mailing list, too (3.3) .
**Folk and Contra Dancing**
A good collection of contra dance links:
http://www.voicenet.com/~squeeze/contras.html
There is a newsgroup rec.folk-dancing and several mailing lists (3.3)
.
**Lindy Hop**
The World Lindy Hop Federation:
http://www.halcyon.com/lindyhop/WLHF/wlhfa.html
and the Archives of Early Lindy Hop
http://www.mcn.org/a/lindyhop
maintained by judyp@mcn.org (Judy Pritchett) .
There is a mailing list (3.3) .
**Line dancing**
This site contains a lot of line dance information, and it points to
many other sites.
http://www.io.org/~rfielder/CWLinks.html
For a line dancing mailing list, see (3.3) . Here is an archive (3.7)
of line dances. A line dance web site:
http://www2.cybernex.net/~cowboy/index.html
**Performance dance, including ballet and modern**
There are many pages related to performance dance (ballet, modern
dance, tap, etc). The following is the most complete collection of
links:
http://www.physics.purdue.edu/~jswhite/dance_links.html
.
There is a newsgroup (3.1) and a mailing list (3.3) for ballet and
modern.
**Polka**
There is a newsgroup alt.music.polka and a web site
http://www.polkanet.com/
.
**Sacred Dance**
The Sacred Dance Guild maintains a website at the following URL:
http://www.us.net/sdg
The Sacred Dance Guild is dedicated to dance as spiritual expression
for:
Enrichment of personal devotion and prayer.
-- Connectedness within the community at worship.
-- Acceptance and Expansion of relationships with God and others.
-- Disciplined Growth of the whole person: mind, body, and spirit.
-- Creative Discoveries within the art form and in its relevance to
the other arts in religion.
Scott A. "Scotty" Ward Scotty@US.Net or sward@us.net ,
Secretary/Treasurer, Potomac Chapter Sacred Dance Guild
**Swing Dance**
The DC Swing Dance Server
http://catalog.com/meyer/swing.html
and the Cornell server
http://www.cs.cornell.edu/Info/People/aswin//SwingDancing/swing_dancing.html
are your best sources of information; swing is discussed on a lot on
rec.arts.dance . Here is a national list of swing dance teachers:
http://www.javanet.com/~stefan/dance/directory.html
.
**Tango**
There is a mailing list (3.3) . This is the Tango Server:
http://litwww.epfl.ch/tango/
. The site
http://www2.csn.net/dtango7
also contains articles about tango.
**Tap**
See
http://www.hahnemann.edu/tap/
. There is a mailing list (3.3) .
**Vintage dancing**
There is a web site
http://allserv.rug.ac.be/~vfack/ihdp/
and a somewhat related newsgroup alt.music.ragtime . Vintage dancing in
http://www.best.com/~lavolta/dance/
the San Francisco Bay Area.
Are there forums on Compuserve and AOL? (3.5)
---------------------------------------------
There are no specific dance forums on either Compuserve or AOL.
Compuserve has related forums (eg Music/Arts), but there seems to be
very little discussion about dance. AOL has a Music & Dance section,
but it appears to be largely New York Ballet / Broadway in nature,
rather than addressing participatory dancing. Prodigy has a Country &
Western forum.
Does anyone have dance-related clip art for me? (3.6)
-----------------------------------------------------
There doesn't seem to be any decent collection of dance-related clip
art. Various clip art archives (for instance the Corel CDROMs) have a
few snippets.
Mark Balzer has made some Ascii dance art:
http://www.math.ucla.edu/~eijkhout/text/art.txt
Jon Leech has collected the images off a number of dance pages:
http://www.cs.unc.edu/~leech/dance/clipart/
Here is a collection of ballet-related digital art:
http://www.danceart.com/
Does anyone have line dance steps for me? (3.7)
-----------------------------------------------
The Dancers Archive (see above) has a large collection of line dance
steps:
ftp://ftp.std.com/customers/nonprofits/dance/CW-dance/dancesteps/
.
Do you have steps to a dance that's not on the archive? Please mail
them to Eileen Bauer ecb@world.std.com .
People post line dance steps on the line dance mailing list. See
section (3.3) .
Line dances are published in The Dance Corral, Country Dance Lines,
and Step by Step. See section (4.7) for subscription info.
For other line dance links and the line-dance mailing list see (3.4) .
What dance organisations and celebrities are on line? (3.8)
-----------------------------------------------------------
**Dance organisations**
Many ballroom dance clubs, dance studios, and other local
organisations are on line. You can find a large number of them on
Henry's hotlist:
http://zeus.ncsa.uiuc.edu:8080/~hneeman/dance_hotlist.html
.
Here are a few of the big ones:
-- the CWDD
http://grimes.rmm.com/infoak/cwdd/
contact: Jim Grimes grimes@rmm.com
-- ISDF
http://home.pi.net/~rullens/idsf.htm
-- the National Teachers Association has a web site
http://www.bbtel.com/~nta
-- the UCWDC
http://www.cais.com/ucwdc/
-- the USABDA has a web site
http://world.std.com/~usabdant/
and Bill Bennet has email Usabda@aol.com
-- the World Swing Dance Council can be reached through Annie Hirsch
anhsch@aol.com
A list of ballroom organisations:
http://wchat.on.ca/dance/pages/5dsorgns/0orgns.htm
.
**Dance publications**
-- Country Calendar (Ernest Wheeler) cwcalendar@earthlink.net
-- Country Connection (Pat Borowicz) can be reached through
ctryconnec@aol.com
-- In The Swing (Janne Anderson) JAnder8689@aol.com
-- Western Express has a web site
http://members.aol.com/wstrnxpres/index.htm
and Marcia Gray has email: wstrnxpr@sbcc.sbceo.k12.ca.us
**Event Directors**
-- Boogie Dance Productions (American Swing Dance Championships, New
York) boogiedp@aol.com
-- John Daugherty (Paradise CW Dance Festival, San Diego)
jddanc19@ally.ios.com
-- Linda Deford (Knoxville TN) TNJudge@aol.com
-- Mike Haley haleydance@aol.com
-- Craig Hutchinson (VA State) crhutch@aol.com
-- Tom Mattox (Los Angeles area) SDDCMATTOX@aol.com
-- John and Josie Need (Atlantic Seashore) VaJudge@aol.com
-- John Riddle (California Boogie and Blues, Los Angeles)
AYS12@aol.com
-- Dennis Waite (Little Bit of Texas, Chicago/ north Indiana area)
DenWaite@aol.com
-- Steve Zener szener@psnw.com
**DJs**
-- Linda Infante ishveit@ns.net
-- BJ Brown NordicTrk@aol.com
**Video productions**
-- B&S Video (Bob Ford) bsvideo@ccnet.com
-- Thumbs Up Video video111@aol.com
**Famous dancers**
-- Scott Allen sallen@electrotex.com
-- David Appel da425@aol.com
-- Jamie Arias jarias@ix.netcom.com
http://www.dancedancedance.com
-- Skippy Blair SkippyUUS@aol.com
-- Enio Cordoba prodnzr@aol.com
-- Robert Cordoba RobCordoba@aol.com
-- Kris Hagerty swingkat@aol.com
-- Michelle Kinkaid wcdancer@ix.netcom.com
-- Tom Paderna tpaderna@hooked.net
-- Debbie Ramsey DebyRamsey@aol.com
-- Charlotte Skeeters skeeters@svlhp52.scs.philips.com
-- Avner Uzan m12dance@aol.com
-- Sonny Watson wcswing1@aol.com
This file is part of the FAQ list about Rec.Arts.Dance, copyright 1995
Victor Eijkhout .
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