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      "Already an international superstar at age 25, Luis Miguel, his
      recordings, videos, concerts and future plans are the topics of
      discussion for this newsgroup. Having sold over 18 million albums
      worldwide, won three Grammys, and with years of sold out concerts to his
      credit, this electrifying singer and performer is destined to become a
      household name in the U.S.A. in the very near future. His appeal
      transcends age. With his 1993 ROMANCE album he popularized the bolero to
      an entire new generation."
      Bobbie Leslie 

    alt.music.lyrics (Discussion of song lyrics)
      "Alt.music.lyrics is a forum for the discussion of all song lyrics. The
      traffic predominantly consists of requests for lyrics and answers to
      those requests, denoted by 'REQ' and 'LYR' respectively in the Subject:
      lines of posts. Other appropriate traffic includes any sort of
      discussion of song lyrics, including misheard lyrics, requests for
      translations, lyric-related humor, philosophical underpinnings of
      vocals, etc."
        * ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/music/lyrics-faq
      Dave Filippi 

    alt.music.makers.dj ()
      No information available.

    alt.music.makers.electronic (The art of creating techno, ambient, etc)
      No information available.

    alt.music.makers.theremin (Making and playing this bizarre instrument)
      "This newsgroup is for the electronic music instrument called the
      theremin. The theremin was invented in 1918 by Lev Termen and is
      credited as the first synthesizer. A documentary film, 'Theremin: An
      Electric Odyssey' is currently showing around the country and has
      generated considerable interest for building custom theremins."
      Ray Iaea 

    alt.music.makers.woodwind ()
      No information available.

    alt.music.marillion (A progressive band; the Silmarillion is a book)
      No information available.

    alt.music.marilyn-manson (You've been a good little boy!)
      No information available.

    alt.music.mexican (Mexican influenced music)
      "This newsgroup is intended to cover the wide panorama of Mexican
      musical styles, and naturally, those artists who make such music. Some
      of the major movements in this universe are Tejano, Ranchero, Banda,
      Norten~o and Mariachi, to mention a few. Also of interest are singers
      and musicians from the Mexican balada, pop, rock and hip hop
      categories. Beyond this primary focus, other kinds of Latin American
      music may get attention here, although for Tropical/ Caribbean styles
      the newsgroup rec.music.afro-latin would be more appropriate. Commonly,
      posts will be in Spanish, English, or a combination of both."
      Roy Sette 

    alt.music.midi ()
      "Discussion of electronic music creating using the electronic linking
      system Musical Instrument Digital Interface, which allows the
      properly-equipped user to link two or more such instruments together for
      simultaneous or synchronous use."
      Myke 

    alt.music.misc (Like rec.music.misc, only different)
      No information available.

    alt.music.monkees (Hey, hey, they were the Monkees)
      "The Friendliest Place in Cyberspace![tm], this group has been
      officially declared a "flame-free zone". It is dedicated to the
      discussion of The Monkees (Mike Nesmith, Peter Tork, Micky Dolenz, and
      Davy Jones) and their fans. Discussion encompasses the past (TV, albums,
      concert performances, movie), the present (solo projects, personal
      appearances, reissues), and the future (???) of The Monkees, as well as
      fan experiences, debates over lyrics, the meaning of "Head", and other
      related topics."
        * http://www.primenet.com/~flex/monkees.html
      Torkaholic 

    alt.music.moody-blues (Still In Search of the Lost Chord)
      "The Moody Blues are usually considered a 'classic rock' group, although
      their music is so diverse that it cannot really be placed into one
      category. The Moodies have been highly successful in producing R&B,
      classical/progressive rock, and '80s' pop music. The Moodies have sold
      over 55 million albums worldwide and are one of a small handful of
      groups to have a top-ten hit in each of three consecutive decades."
        * http://www.imsa.edu/~locutus/moody-blues.html
      Michael Holl 

    alt.music.new-order (The music of New Order and its memebers)
      "New Order were formed from the ashes of Joy Division, after Ian Curtis
      commited suicide. Recently the band has not been very active, although I
      think it has not been dissolved, and there are/have been 3 new bands:
        * Electronic (Bernard Summer, New Order singer and ... + John Marr,
          Smiths guitar)
        * Revenge (Peter Hook, New Order bass)
        * The other two (the other 2 members of New Order whose names I can't
          remember at this time)"
      Rui Pedro Mendes Salgueiro 

    alt.music.nin (Nine Inch Nails, aka Trent Reznor)
      And other appearances by the nightmare that is Trent.

    alt.music.nirvana (Generation X's Seattle leaders, leaderless)
      No information available.

    alt.music.oasis (The music and members of Oasis.)
      No information.

    alt.music.offspring ()
      "The band Offspring is basically the same punk-style as Green Day, but a
      bit more chaotic.... oh, they've sold about as many records."
      Christopher Bird 

    alt.music.orb (Little fluffy clouds...)
      "Discussion of the Orb, one of the best known ambient techno/dub groups,
      and their numerous spinoff projects (including System 7 and Fortran
      5). The group is very poorly propagated and the Cumulonimbus list
      (orb-request@xmission.com, I think) is a much better place for
      discussion."
      Gnosis 

    alt.music.ozzy ()
      No information available.

    alt.music.pantera (I'm broken)
      No information available.

    alt.music.pat-mccurdy (Milwaukee's finest export)
      "Discussion, praise, worship and griping about Milwaukee's finest export
      (beer included). Pat plays regularly in Chicago, Milwaukee, Madison,
      Green Bay, Minneapolis, and does the occasional college tour to parts
      beyond. Four CDs out. Wacky stuff. Come find out about it."
      Colette D. Marine 

    alt.music.pat-metheny (The music of Pat Metheny and Group)
      No information available.

    alt.music.paul-simon (Discussion of Paul Simon's music)
      No information available.

    alt.music.pearl-jam (The music of the alternative rock band Pearl Jam)
      "This newsgroup was formed in late 1993 for discussion of all topics
      concerning the Seattle group, Pearl Jam. Pearl Jam was formed in late
      1990 and includes band members Eddie Vedder, Stone Gossard, Mike
      McCready, Jeff Ament, and Jack Irons. Topics of discussion have included
      lyrical interpretations, postings of newspaper and magazine articles,
      concert reviews, tour information, bootleg information tape trading, and
      just general information/comments about the band. In addition, the
      newsgroup also has a Pearl Jam FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions),
      Discography, Songbook, and Tourbook files that are posted regularly on
      it."
        * http://www.engin.umich.edu/~galvin/pearljam.html
        * http://www.skypoint.com/members/calebl/gos.html
      Grace Mendoza 

    alt.music.peter-gabriel (So, it's the music of Peter Gabriel, sans
      frontier)
      No information available.

    alt.music.pink-floyd (Sold out shows everywhere)
      No information available.

    alt.music.posterkids (Poster Children)
      "This newsgroup is for discussion between fans of the band 'Poster
      Children.' Talking about the band is definitely on topic, and so is
      anything else that's of interest to at least one PC fan -- although
      stuff that's interesting to *two* of us might lead to better
      conversation. Obviously, a high signal/noise ratio is expected, and junk
      mail, spam, and commercial posts are not welcome."
        * http://www.prairienet.org/posterkids
        * http://discordia.tln.net/posterkids
      Matthew Miller 

    alt.music.primus (Primus sucks)
      "The description line is a reference to one CD where the lead singer
      shouts 'We're Primus, we suck!' which has become an inside joke of sorts
      for Primus fans."
      Gnosis 

    alt.music.prince (also applies to that Symbol Guy)
      "Prince Rogers Nelson in both his 'Prince' and 'O(+>' incarnations does
      more to generate controversy before breakfast than most artists do all
      day. An excellent WWW resource is the New Power Network:"
        * http://morra.et.tudelft.nl/npn/
        * http://kluso.nosc.mil/npn/
      Bret Gorsline 

    alt.music.producer (Discussion about record production and A&R)
      No information available.

    alt.music.progressive (Progressive/Symphonic/Art Rock)
      "This newsgroup is for discussion of Progressive/Symphonic/Art rock
      groups like King Crimson, Yes, Genesis and other bands that stress
      complex/intricate music with "classical" influences. It is not for
      Alternative/Progressive band discussions nor is it for Progressive Metal
      discussions (there are other newsgroups for those topics)."
      Ken Bibb 

    alt.music.psychedelic (Music appropriate to the psychedelic state)
      "Includes discussions of 'classic' psychedelia (early Floyd, 13th Floor
      Elevators, Velvet Underground, the Dead, etc.) as well as more modern
      music (Butthole Surfers, Legendary Pink Dots, Ozrics, etc.) Hopefully
      not too much Floyd/Dead chat as they have their own groups!"
      Tom Ritchford 

    alt.music.queen (The music of Queen and its members)
      "This group is for discussion of the band Queen and the related solo
      projects by members Freddie Mercury, Brian May, Roger Taylor and John
      Deacon."
      Sheri 

    alt.music.ramones ()
      An American punk group, founded in the 1970s, yet still active
      today. They were featured in the movie "Rock 'n' Roll High School" and
      their best known songs include "Sheena Is a Punk Rocker," "Blitzkrieg
      Bop," and "Pet Sematary."

    alt.music.replacements (I'm in love - what's that song?)
      "The Replacements created some of the rawest and most uncompromising
      rock music of the 1980s. The 'mats earned a reputation for being one of
      the finest and most unpredictable live acts of 1980s indie scene by
      juxtaposing cathartic, punk-influenced shows with drunken
      tomfoolery. Their ace in the hole was frontman Paul Westerberg, who
      perfectly articulated the ambivalence and alienation of growing up in
      the 1980s."
      Lynne Barkett 

    alt.music.rockabilly ()
      No information available.

    alt.music.roger-waters (To Pink or Not to Pink)
      No information available.

    alt.music.rush (For Rushheads)
      No information available.

    alt.music.s-mclachlan (A Touch of Solace in Ecstasy)
      Canadian singer, songwriter, and general goddess Sarah McLachlan. Does
      this include much general Nettwerk (her label) discussion?

    alt.music.saxophone (Making and enjoying sax music.)
      No information.

    alt.music.seal (Discussions & news about the British
      musician/singer/songwriter, Seal)
        * http://www.cis.yale.edu/~ariedels/seal.html
        * http://www.cluelessink.com/Seal
      Gareth Edwards 
      Eric Heintz 

    alt.music.ska (Discussions of ska (skank) music, bands, and suchlike)
      "Ska is dance music, first and foremost. Ska was a Jamaican dance music
      that swept out of Jamaica in the early 1960s to shake the butts of
      working- and middle-class Jamaicans before going on, via the West Indian
      immigrant connection, to the UK, and then on to the world. In the UK,
      ska was also known as `blue beat' music. Rocksteady, and later, reggae
      sprang from the loins of ska in the late 1960s. Mid-1970s and
      1980s/1990s revivals of this popular dance form have kept this music
      alive and fun through the present. The ska beat on drums and bass,
      rhythm guitar, lots of horns and maybe a Hammond organ --- that's the
      ska sound."
        * ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/music/ska-faq/
        * http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/music/ska-faq/top.html
      Tomas Willis 

    alt.music.smash-pumpkins (The Smashing Pumpkins)
      "A newsgroup revolving around the Smashing Pumpkins. Members are Billy
      Corgan, James Iha, D'arcy, and Jimmy Chamberlin. Overplayed radio songs
      include Today, Disarm, Bullet with Butterfly Wings, and 1979."
        * FAQ (text): http://www.engr.wisc.edu/~agnew/sp-faq.html
        * Links (lots of them): http://www.engr.wisc.edu/~agnew/links.html
      Eric Charles Agnew 

    alt.music.smiths ()
      Discussion of the now-defunct British band and the solo career of its
      singer Morrissey.

    alt.music.sondheim (Life and music of Stephen Sondheim)
      "This group is for the discussion of the life and music of Stephen
      Sondheim, called by some 'the greatest composer in musical theatre.' He
      is known for his unorthodox use of both music and lyrics, and has had a
      prolific and active career."
      Andrew Stephen Damick 

    alt.music.sonic-youth (Loud enough to make you deaf)
      No information available.

    alt.music.sophie-hawkins (News & Discussions on Sophie B. Hawkins)
      No information available.

    alt.music.soul (Soul, rhythm, and blues)
      The discussion pertains to the genre of music equivalent to rhythm and
      blues.

    alt.music.soundgarden (The rock group Soundgarden)
      No information available.

    alt.music.squeeze (Discussion of the Brit-pop combo Squeeze)
      "Alt.music.squeeze is a Usenet group for the discussion of the highly
      acclaimed Brit-pop combo Squeeze. Led by singer/songwriters Chris
      Difford and Glenn Tilbrook, the band has been productive for almost 20
      years now, emerging from the same pub-rock/new wave explosion that
      produced Elvis Costello and Nick Lowe, all forerunners of today's
      'alternative sound.' This group discusses new releases, their live shows
      and delves in the ever tricky universe of song interpretation."
        * http://206.103.168.100/squeeze/squeeze.html
      Daniel Rivkin 

    alt.music.stone-roses (The Past Is Yours But the Future's Mine)
      "This group exists for the discussion of the music of and information
      about the Stone Roses. Discussion will include people's thoughts on
      their music releases and related music (i.e. other Manchester bands) and
      general information on the band such as sightings, band shakeups,
      interviews, release dates, and tour info."
      Jeannie Fromer 

    alt.music.stone-temple (The group Stone Temple Pilots)
      No information available.

    alt.music.swedish-pop (ABBA and beyond)
      No information available.

    alt.music.sylvian (David Sylvian and other former Japan members)
      "Newsgroup for discussions etc about Japan, Rain Tree Crow, David
      Sylvian, Steve Jansen, Richard Barbieri and Mick Karn."
        * http://tudoms.tudelft.nl/~vbunning/sylvian/index.html
      Simon Rowe 

    alt.music.synthpop (Depeche Mode, Erasure, Pet Shop Boys, and much more!)
      No information available.

    alt.music.tape-culture (Casette tape-oriented independent music scene)
      "There is a large following for the underground D.I.Y. (Do It Yourself)
      tape scene and this newsgroup is here to discuss the music, artists and
      tape labels of that scene."
      Allyson Goble 

    alt.music.techno (Bring on the bass!)
      No information available.

    alt.music.texas (Discussion of music from Texas)
      "This group basically is for discussing the music and artists from
      Texas. Although any form of music is welcome, the group will mainly
      focus on the rock scene. This includes Tripping Daisy, The Toadies, MC
      900 ft. Jesus, Pantera, and anybody else from the area."
        * http://link.tsl.texas.gov/
      Bill Baumbach 

    alt.music.the-band (The music and fans of The Band)
      "Alt.music.the-band is a newsgroup for discussion of the classic-rock
      group, 'The Band'. Members of the Band first gained notoriety backing
      Bob Dylan as he went electric. The group released critically acclaimed
      roots-rock albums in the late 1960s and 1970s, influencing some of the
      top musicians of the era, including Eric Clapton, who says The Band
      'changed [his] life.' The Band broke up in the late 1970s, but have
      re-formed and enjoyed renewed success with the release of a new boxed
      set. Charter members include Robbie Robertson (guitar), Levon Helm
      (drums, vocals), the late Richard Manuel (piano, vocals), Rick Danko
      (bass, vocals), and Garth Hudson (organ)."
      Scott Tribble 

    alt.music.the-doors (Rock group The Doors and its members)
      "This group was created in early 1994 to provide a forum for the
      discussion and exchange of questions, ideas, views and information about
      anything to do with The Doors. Most threads are about the lead singer,
      Jim Morrison, but discussion of all members of the band are
      encouraged. The group was comprised of Jim Morrison (vocals), Ray
      Manzarek (keyboards), Robby Krieger (guitar) and John Densmore
      (drums). Traffic is steady but of low-volume. Most postings seem to be
      from a small but dedicated group of Doors fans."
      Dave Thompson 

    alt.music.tmbg (They Might Be Giants, but then again...)
      "This group is for the discussion of the music and recordings of They
      Might Be Giants. They Might Be Giants defy the standard genre
      pigeonholing, combining diverse influences including TV theme shows, The
      Jackson 5, The Edgar Winter Group, XTC, and many others into a cohesive,
      surreal, funny, and often insightful vision. John Flansburgh's Hello
      Recording Club and other side projects of the band have also been
      discussed. Expect non-sequiturs."
      John Relph 

    alt.music.todd-rundgren (Todd Rundgren music fandom)
      No information available.

    alt.music.tragically-hip (The rock group The Tragically Hip)
      Another Canadian band.

    alt.music.u2 (The rock group U2)
      No information available.

    alt.music.utah-saints (Utah Saints discussion)
      "Created in October 1995, this group is a collection of news, reviews
      and discussion related to the work of Jez Willis and DJ Tim
      Garbutt. Utah Saints are an indescribable mix of dance, synthpop and
      techno. They have appeared live with the likes of U2, The Shamen, and DJ
      Paul Oakenfold and have done remix work for a broad range of artists
      including Annie Lennox, The Human League and Blondie."
      Allan Langfield 

    alt.music.van-halen (For discussion of topics related to Van Halen)
      No information available.

    alt.music.video-games ()
      No information available.

    alt.music.ween (Discussion of the 'Eclectic' group, Ween)
      "This group is for discussion of the New Hope, PA band Ween. The
      four-piece Ween is Gene and Dean Ween, bassist/producer Andrew Weiss,
      and drummer Claude Coleman. Discussion on the Ween Album Experience and
      very different Ween Concert Experience."
        * http://pobox.com/~kkoller/Ween/
      Captain Sarcastic 

    alt.music.weird-al (The parodist Weird Al Yankovic)
      "Discussion about the comedy musician "Weird Al" Yankovic. Posted
      monthly is the Weird Al FAQ and the "27-List," bi-monthly the Dementia
      FAQ is posted. Bermuda Schwartz, Al's drummer, contributes to the group
      regularly, and several close friends of Al do also. URLs of Al's pages
      are exchanged, as well as questions, answers, concert reviews, etc."
      Lex Friedman 

    alt.music.who (Rock group The Who and its members)
      No information available.

    alt.music.world (Folk/traditional music from around the world)
      "This group is for discussion of music not from the US and not
      pop/rock. We do not welcome discussion about rock music in this
      newsgroup and we discourage cross-posting from rock-related groups into
      alt.music.world."
      Mike Cohen 

    alt.music.yes (The progressive band Yes)
      No information available.

    alt.music.yngwie (Talk about Yngwie J. Malmsteen)
      No information available.
______________________________________________________________________________

		How To Create a Newsgroup For a Musical Artist

The purpose of this mini-faq is to help people who want to create newsgroups
for their favourite artists/bands avoid the flamefest of alt.config, and the
poor propagation of alt.music. Taking this route will require an investment of
three months to a year before you have a newsgroup, but if the fandom really
exists, then it will be worth it.
     1. Create a mailing list. For a list of mailing list providers, see
        http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/edmonds/usenet/ml-providers.txt.
     2. Advertise it every few weeks in the appropriate related alt.music and
        rec.music groups, and in rec.music.info. An informative and well
        written advert of a paragraph or two (with clear subscription
        instructions) will be more likely to attract positive attention than a
        "Hey, join my k00l list" type posting.
     3. While it is growing, familiarize yourself with the Big-8 newsgroup
        creation guidelines, found in news.announce.newgroups. Reading
        news.groups for a month or two will also be helpful. Make sure that
        you stay active on the mailing list to maintain a steady traffic and
        keep people interested -- interesting lists grow fast.
     4. Wait until your mailing list has a few hundred members. I would
        suggest 200 as a minimum, and 500 being almost a sure thing.
     5. If the list never gets this many readers, then there probably aren't
        as many fans on the net as you thought. At this point, you can go
        propose an alt.music group, or (more sensibly, I think) stick with the
        mailing list.
     6. Submit an RFD for the group under rec.music[.artists]. Come up with a
        good name, and make sure the RFD/CFV are posted to your mailing list,
        and encourage members to vote. If you can get a few hundred yes votes
        from the list, then you're almost guaranteed to get a group with
        worldwide propagation.
     7. Suggestion: arranging to turn the mailing list into a gateway for
        newsgroup once created will help in avoiding negative votes from
        members of the list who cannot receive news directly.

If you're new to finding/creating musical resources on the net, check out the
following FAQ:
    o http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/edmonds/music/musical-info.txt
    o send email to majordomo@edmonds.home.cs.ubc.ca with the following line
      in the body of the message: get faq musical-info.txt
______________________________________________________________________________

			  How To Create an Alt Group

For complete information on creating alt groups, please refer to the alt group
creation guidelines, which are posted regularly to alt.config, and are also
available on the web at:
    o http://www.math.psu.edu/barr/alt-creation-guide.html
______________________________________________________________________________

		       How To Find Music Mailing Lists

If you would like a copy of the latest version of Myra Wong's List of Music
Mailing Lists, send email to  with the line
"get faq lomml.txt" in the body of the message. It is also available from:
    o finger ayukawa@server.berkeley.edu
    o ftp://server.berkeley.edu/pub/misc/lomml
    o http://server.berkeley.edu/~ayukawa/lomml.html

Thanks to Scott Southwick  for pointing out that
Indiana University also maintains a searchable archive of over 9000 mailing
lists. It is accessible on the web at:
    o http://scwww.ucs.indiana.edu/mlarchive/
______________________________________________________________________________

-- 
The alt.music Group List
Brian Edmonds  $Date: 1996/10/27 15:16:03 $

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