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and keep on going. In the event that you do find that you're
getting flamed an awful lot, you may wish to consider your
presentation: even if you're saying perfectly reasonable
things, a lot of people will have trouble with what you're
saying if you 1) sound like you think you speak for all
humanity or 2) keep saying the same thing over and over instead
of listening to how people are responding to you and responding
yourself to what they say.
Contrary to popular belief, there is no requirement that one
respond to each and every flame directed one's way. Even if
someone stoops so low as to call you a "pompous spamhead" or
impugns your ability to make use of groceries that haven't been
pre-chewed, you are still free to ignore it and get on with
your life; in fact, doing so is often recommended, since people
tend to skim a lot of messages and running across a whole
stream of articles arguing over whose head bears the greatest
resemblance to lunchmeat is a lot more likely to leave the
casual reader with the impression that you _are_ a pompous
spamhead than one or two ignored flames would have. Responding
to flames and personal attacks tends to focus attention on
them, which encourages those who flame you and is likely to
make casual readers see you in a worse light. So, when in
doubt, ignore the flames and respond to the articles that
inspire you to say interesting and thought-provoking things.
Hey--someone just posted a personal ad to soc.singles! Should I flame
the pants off this person?
That depends; if you can think of a wonderfully witty and
entertaining way to flame the ad, go ahead; otherwise it's not
generally worth the trouble of putting up a public post about
it for the whole world to read and it might be better just to
send a note to the poster in email suggesting that this is
uncool. If you do want to respond publicly, you might want to
change the subject from "lonely speedboat owner seeks fellow
marmalade enthusiast" to something more like "No Personals,
Please (was: lonely speedboat owner seeks...)"; that way people
just scanning the topics or reading the newsgroup with nn or
other newsreaders that just show you the subjects unless you
select the article won't get the impression from reading the
headers that personals are the mainstay of soc.singles--plus,
those people who don't want to read the flames generated by
personals can just put "/No Personals, Please/:j" into their
killfiles.
Soc.singles is just full of flaming and angry-sounding people this
week; can't you guys all just get along?
Not everybody logs onto the net to meet people and enjoy
friendly conversations; a lot of people just enjoy being
obnoxious and feeling like they have a lot of power and are
really cool if they can piss other people off, especially if
they can get someone else to lose his or her cool and act like
a twit too. Posting a message saying that somebody like that is
a rude and annoying twerp with no social skills and probably
has the personal hygiene normally associated with week-old
roadkill isn't going to make them rethink their ways, it'll
only encourage them.
On any newsgroup, if you don't like flaming and angry words,
don't add to them; what you write is part of the newsgroup just
like everybody else's articles, so the best way to make the
newsgroup have the style you enjoy is to post the kind of
articles you'd like to read if they'd been written by someone
else.
Sometimes I write stuff that is just so incredible I think I should
crosspost it to every other newsgroup on the net. Is that OK?
No. In general on any newsgroup, crossposting should not be
done more than necessary. Inevitably, when you crosspost a
discussion about your taste in swimwear to soc.singles,
alt.personals, rec.scuba, rec.nude, and alt.culture.urdu, the
thread will quickly diverge in directions that most of the
groups don't want to read about. If you do this too often,
people from the various groups will start showing up at your
house and tearing up your flowerbeds. If you reply to a message
that is crossposted, be sure to trim off the newsgroups for
which your reply is not appropriate or at the very least set
the Followup-To: field to the group for which the subject
matter is most appropriate.
Unfortunately, the net tends to attract people who can't get
attention or satisfaction in life except by cross-posting
obnoxious and self-important messages all over the place in
hopes that someone will pay attention to them. Usually it's not
worth bothering to reply to these sorts of articles; the
original author probably doesn't care what you say or have much
interest in reading it, but simply enjoys knowing that you were
annoyed by it enough to respond.
What is this "editing" stuff I keep hearing about?
"Editing," which is most commonly used in the phrase "please
learn how to edit your messages" refers to deleting unnecessary
quoted material. It's not at all unusual for newcomers to the
net to reply to long messages by quoting the entire thing and
then responding to a comment made somewhere in the middle of
the original post by adding a single sentence onto the end.
It's much better to delete quoted text from the original
message if it isn't necessary to what you're trying to say.
Remember that many people out there, when they see huge reams
of quoted material that obviously hasn't been edited down, will
simply skip over to the next message without bothering to read
your sterling prose at the end, so a little attention to the
mechanisms of cleaning up quoted material will help you get
your points across. Also be sure to delete any quoted material
left at the end of your message--it's easy to respond to
something in the middle or even the beginning and forget to lop
off the quoted stuff at the end that you aren't responding to.
Don't be too industrious when deleting text, though--be sure to
leave enough quoted text so that the readers will know what
you're talking about even if they don't remember the message
that you're responding to and be careful not to trim off the
attributions (the names of the people saying the things you're
quoting) that go with the text you leave in. (Do feel
encouraged to remove the names of people whose comments have
been entirely deleted, though.)
How about editing subject headers?
This is an important and much-neglected art. Often the topic
will have strayed far from its original one and a discussion on
gerbil rolfing will be carried out under the heading "Favorite
skiing lingerie." When this happens, it's entirely appropriate
to change the heading to something a little closer to the topic
under discussion. On the other hand, it's best not to change
the topic too often, especially when it's a hotly debated topic
that is only peripherally (if at all) involved with singledom
and it is likely that many people will be killing the topic
(see the section on killfiles later in this file) in an attempt
to avoid reading about it. Sometimes, when you do change the
subject header, you may wish to list what the previous topic
was as well; for example, if the topic being discussed under
"Spiders vs. Lemon Pate'" had strayed to an in-depth
examination of the sexual habits of people with mohawks, you
might want to change the subject to "Mohawk Sex (was: Spiders
vs. Lemon Pate')" which would allow those who are following the
discussion under one heading to continue to follow it under the
new heading.
Even more important than occasionally changing the subject to
match the actual topic being discussed is eliminating
inappropriate groups when replying to a cross-posted article;
no matter what newsgroup you might be reading when you decide
to respond to an article, if you see more than one group listed
in the "Newsgroups:" line of the header, your article is going
to appear in all of them, so make sure that you delete any
inappropriate groups from the list before sending your article.
There are enough people out there who crosspost to a lot of
groups maliciously, just to see how many people they can
irritate with a few keystrokes, that a lot of readers don't
have much patience left when it comes to articles
inappropriately crossposted to the newsgroups they read, so you
can make a lot of people pissed off at you by responding to a
heavily crossposted article without taking the time to trim off
the groups where your message doesn't really belong. Be warned,
too, that there's enough of a problem with crossposting that
many readers simply kill [don't read] articles that are
crossposted to more than a few groups or, sometimes,
crossposted at all, so a lot of people won't even see your
article if you leave the extraneous groups in.
If you simply must reply to a heavily crossposted article and
have your article appear in all the groups the previous article
was posted to, you also have the option of listing just the
relevant groups in the "Followup-To:" line of the header; that
way responses to your article will show up just in the
newsgroups you list and you'll annoy fewer readers, since even
if they think your article is inappropriate for the group
they're reading, at least you'll look like you're making some
effort to be considerate of other groups.
What else can I do to improve my ASCII appearance?
Any article posted to soc.singles will be read by many, many
thousands of people across the world who will be basing their
impressions of you as a person entirely on the messages you
post, so it's worthwhile to make sure your messages are clear
and readable. Probably the single most common mistake is not
putting in carriage returns when they are needed, either typing
in an entire paragraph or message in a single line (which looks
sloppy, is difficult to quote properly, and may be truncated by
some offline readers) or only putting in a return after more
than 80 columns (which looks even worse, since on most systems
this will show up as alternating full lines and really short
lines). Most of the time, it's best to limit your lines to no
more than 72 columns, which leaves enough extra space that they
will still be easily readable even when quoted a time or two.
Even if your system can handle reformatting messages so they
look nice anyway, remember that most systems don't do this and,
if you aren't careful with inserting carriage returns, your
messages will be harder to read by others.
Other obvious elements like correct spelling, punctuation, and
grammar help make your message more readable too (and will make
you all the more likely to generate positive responses rather
than grammar flames). Another thing to avoid is typing in your
messages in all-caps (LIKE THIS) which makes it seem like
you're shouting--plus it makes it less likely that you'll be
taken seriously, since the percentage of words in all-caps in a
message has been linked in several studies to the
psychoceramicity (crackpottedness) of the author.
If you're replying to someone else's article, it helps to quote
at least some of what the other article says, just so people
have a better idea of what you're talking about. Delete any
unnecessary quoted material, but leave in the attributions (the
list of who said what) of any text that you do leave in. If you
want to refer to another article explicitly, it's best to
mention the message-ID of the article in question--don't tell
your readers the number of the article on your system, because
article numbers will be different on every system.
What do these weird combinations of punctuation marks I see frequently
in people's messages mean?
These are called "smileys" since the most common ones used are
little pictograms representing a smiling face: ":-)". Because
the net is inherently a text medium, it lacks many of the
nuances of ordinary face-to-face conversation like facial
expressions and tone of voice, so people try to make up for
them in various ways, the most popular being the "smiley."
Standard smileys include:
:-) :) smile 8-) B-) smile w/ glasses
;-) wink :-> ironic/lecherous smile
:-( sad/unhappy :-O surprise
There's an ongoing debate as to whether smileys are a good
thing or a bad thing; some people like to use them whenever
possible, others feel that writing should stand on its own
without having to point out whether something was supposed to
be funny or not.
You'll also note unrepentant programmer types adding variants
of C compiler directives to their posts or use parodies of HTML
tags to clue you in on the deep, inner feelings that lurk
beneath the facade of their words. For example:
#dripping_sarcasm_mode(ON)
and
Good Eeevening
In general, it should be pretty obvious even to the
non-programmer what the writer means to convey with these
directives.
How do you pronounce "soc"?
There's no currently accepted standard. The currently most
popular pronunciations are "soak," "sosh" (like in 'social'),
"sock," and "soas" (as in "sociological"). The least popular
pronunciations include "sach," "sick," and "throat-warbler
mangrove." The IEEE and CCITT are jointly working on developing
an international standard for the pronunciation of "soc" and
expect that the first draft of the standard will be available
some time near the end of the third quarter of 2011.
What's a ".GIF", ".JPG" or ".MPG"?
GIF stands for "Graphics Interchange Format" and is a common
format in which pictures are stored for display on a computer
screen; when someone on soc.singles mentions something that
someone else would really like to have seen, the latter person
may jokingly ask for a "GIF"--but even if you're asked for one,
don't even think of posting it to soc.singles, since they tend
to be huge and are expressly forbidden on non-binaries groups.
The same goes for .JPG or JPEG (another popular graphics
format) and .MPG, MPEG, or .AVI (graphics formats for
computer-displayed "movies.")
Is there a World-Wide Web page for soc.singles?
Yes. Trygve Lode (soc.singles faq maintainer and lunatic)
maintains a soc.singles homepage at
http://www.trygve.com/singles.html
which is slowly being expanded as people give me suggestions
for what they'd like to see there.
Ross ridge maintains a soc.singles page at
http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/u/rridge/ss/soc-singles.html
Additionally, homepages for the Dallas Poker Mini-Boink and the
DenverBoink are available at
http://www.swcp.com/~russo/DPMB.html
http://www.swcp.com/~russo/denverboink/DB.html
(courtesy of Thomas Russo; note that "DPMB" is in all-caps)
If you're not familiar with the World-Wide Web, but would like
to be, you may wish to check out the WWW FAQ on news.answers or
ftp it from rtfm (/pub/usenet/news.answers/www/faq/part1 and
part2).
What, exactly, are "Disney Chemicals"?
"Disney Chemicals" refers to the hypothesized fizzy brain
chemicals that can cause a person to believe in "happily ever
afters," the impending appearance of the prince/princess of
one's dreams on one's doorstep, and an eternity of true love
and blissful togetherness.
How do you pronounce "Trygve"
It's sorta like "TREEG-vah" except that the 'EE' is between a
long e and a short i.
How come nice guys don't get laid?
Nice guys do get laid; it's guys who whine a lot who generally
don't.
How come nice guys/gals/small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri get
dumped for jerks/bimbos/hyperfungal Rigellian psuedoshoggoths?
Mostly for the same reasons jerks get dumped for nice guys,
bimbos get dumped for other bimbos, and hyperfungal Rigellian
pseudoshoggoths get rejected in favor of lesser Altairian
shaggy-toothed carno-weeds. No matter how much more keenly you
feel it when it happens to you than when it happens to someone
else, the fact of the matter is that getting
dumped/rejected/passed over in favor of others happens to
pretty much everybody, no matter how nice or mean they happen
to be. Remember, too, that your perception of someone you've
just been dumped for is unlikely to match that of the person
who just dumped you: most people tend to view their rivals
through a jaundiced eye to begin with; your dumper's tastes,
turn-ons, and values are rarely quite the same as yours; and
it's likely that your rival will feel jealous of _you_, which
tends to get in the way of your rival showing you his or her
best side. It's also worth noting that the person who dumped
you may be trying to make you feel better by emphasizing your
rival's bad qualities and failing to mention the good ones,
figuring that bubbling over about his or her wonderful new
partner would only make you feel worse.
No matter why you've been dumped or whom you've been dumped
for, the best advice is generally the same: take it in stride
and get on with your life. There's always tomorrow and very few
people have ever found love and happiness by pining away and
moping.
I met someone last week at a party; what do you think this person's
deepest and innermost feelings for me are?
That's one of the most common questions new people ask on
soc.singles and, unfortunately, one of the most difficult ones
to answer in any meaningful way. Trouble is, all people are
different and what would mean something for one person is
likely to mean something completely different for someone
else--and if you have trouble figuring out someone you know and
have first-hand experience with, imagine how difficult it can
be for people who have never met this person and are dealing
only with second-hand information to figure out what's on that
person's mind. That doesn't mean you can't ask the other
readers of soc.singles what they think, but it does mean that
you shouldn't take any advice you get too seriously or think of
it as a substitute for actually talking to the person you're
curious about.
Is it possible for men and women to be just friends?
Yes; many people have friends of the opposite sex without ever
having any sort of sexual relationship with them. This, of
course, doesn't imply anything one way or the other as to
whether you or any other given individual can really be "just
friends" with a member of the opposite sex.
Do conversations on the net ever blossom into torrid romances?
Yes; it's actually not even particularly unusual. Conversations
over the net have the advantage of being a non-threatening way
to get to know someone and, sometimes, if a person has managed
to interest you through articles and/or e-mail and this person
continues to interest you when you meet for real, well, all
sorts of interesting things have been known to happen. However,
this doesn't mean that simply by posting (even if you post an
awful lot) you'll meet your dream mate; indeed, if it's obvious
that you're posting for this reason, you'll tend to turn off
most of the people who might otherwise be interested. So,
basically, if you're open to finding a mate this way, the best
thing to do is just to hang out and have a good time and if it
happens, it happens--and if it doesn't, you'll at least have
had a good time. (Strangely enough, there are even some folks
who recommend this approach to mate-finding for real life as
well.)
What about personal ads?
Don't post them on soc.singles.
Will this message ever end?
Well, it always has before.
How about posting articles asking for readers to send postcards to a
kid in England who is dying of cancer and wants to set the
world record for most cards received before he dies?
No, don't do it. He's been cured, has asked many times for
people to stop sending him cards, and thoroughly regrets ever
having had the idea in the first place. The "Neiman Marcus $250
Cookie Recipe" story and the "Good Times Virus" are also
well-known urban legends; if you want to read about them or,
for some reason, write about them, the newsgroup
alt.folklore.urban is devoted just to that subject. Two other
good places to dig up the details on these and other urban
legends are the San Fernando Valley Folklore Society's Urban
Legend Reference Pages ( http://www.snopes.com ) and the
alt.folklore.urban archives ( http://www.urbanlegends.com ) .
How come there are so many kooks on the net?
In a word, attention. It's an unfortunate fact of life that a
turd in an art gallery gets a lot more attention than yet
another Picasso. Getting people across the world to tell you
that you're a disgusting twit seems like a strange thing to get
turned on by, but obviously enough people out there derive
sufficient enjoyment and satisfaction from it to keep the net
well-stocked with fertilizer. Most net.kooks quickly find a few
stock tactics that are sure to annoy enough people into
responding that they can just sit back and repost the same
stuff year after year and bask in all the attention it gets
them with practically no effort on their part. Arguing with a
net kook only provides further encouragement--if you want to
keep all the Picassos from being replaced by wall-to-wall
turds, the only effective approach is to ignore them until they
go off in search of other people still naive enough to play the
Pay-Attention-To-Meeee game.
OK, we're getting near the end of the file now--what's this about
"killfiles" that you promised to tell us about?
Most newsreaders have a provision for "killing" messages; that
is, marking them as read before you get to them, so your
newsreader then skips over them automatically instead of
showing them to you. I'm going to discuss how to do this in rn
and its derivatives (trn, etc.) but most other newsreaders
should have similar capabilities (though the command syntax
won't necessarily be identical). Topics are the easiest things
to kill, as you need only type the 'k' key and all subsequent
messages with that topic will be marked as read; you can also
kill things in more complex ways by typing in a "regular
expression" followed by ":j", telling the newsreader to "junk"
(mark as read) all the articles that match that regular
expression. Remember, you still can read the messages that have
been marked as read if you want to, either by typing in the
message number or by using the 'N' and 'P' commands to move to
the next and previous messages rather than the 'n' and 'p'
commands.
A regular expression normally consists of a pair of '/'s with a
pattern you'd like to match in the middle. For example, if you
wanted to kill all messages whose topics included the word
"banana" you could type in "/banana/:j" and hit a return (and
it would list the numbers of the articles that were being
junked--the topics "BananaSizeWar" and "vegemite and banana
delight; mmmm-mmm" would be junked. The default is to check
just the topic line and not differentiate between upper- and
lower-case letters; that is, it wouldn't matter whether the
topic had the word "banana" or "bAnAnA" in it. If you want it
to be case sensitive and select "bAnAnA" but not "Banana", a
'c' should be placed after the trailing slash: "/bAnAnA/c:j".
You can also have your newsreader check more than just the
topic line--adding an 'h' after the trailing slash makes the
newsreader check the entire header (allowing you to kill
messages by a given author and/or from a particular site) and
adding an 'a' will check the whole article; thus,
"/grunting/a:j" would mark every article containing the word
"grunting" as read. (And, of course, this may be combined with
the 'c' option so that "/Grunting/ca:j" would kill off only
those articles in which "Grunting" is capitalized.)
You can also type in an expression like this without the ":j"
at the end, in which case it will simply locate and display the
article that matches the pattern. Using question marks ("?")
instead of slashes will make it search backwards instead of
forwards and the "r" option makes it scan articles that you've
already read. Thus, if you were trying to find the article in
which somebody mentioned something about the use of badger dung
as an aphrodesiac, you could type in "?badger dung?ar" for it
to search all preceding articles for a mention of badger dung;
if you want it to mark all the articles that mention badger
dung as unread, you can type in "?badger dung?ar:m"
Kill commands like those above may be placed in a file where
they will be performed automatically when you read a group.
This file goes in a directory off your News directory
corresponding to the group name and the default name for this
file is KILL (note capitals). Thus, the killfile for
soc.singles would be
[your home directory]/News/soc/singles/KILL
Hitting a 'K' will not only kill the topic you're reading, but
also add a command to kill that topic in future sessions to
your killfile for that group, creating it if it doesn't exist,
even creating the directories to put it in if necessary. While
this is the easiest way to add to a killfile, it is also
generally the least useful, since most topics do die or change
after a while, but unless you edit that line out of your
killfile, it will continue to live in there, eating up
processor time and generally slowing everything down whenever
you read that group. In general, keeping your killfiles to a
minimum is a good approach, especially if you are sharing a
computer with other users who don't like the system bogging
down any more than you do.
A few examples:
killing messages from beavis@butthead.edu:
/^From: *beavis@butthead\.edu/h:j
killing messages cross-posted from alt.boring.prattle:
/^Newsgroups:.*alt\.boring\.prattle/h:j
killing messages crossposted to three or more groups:
/^Newsgroups:.*,.*,/h:j
killing all messages that even mention hairballs:
/hairballs/a:j
You'll notice that I used a few strange characters up there:
these are characters that have special meaning when used in an
expression like one of these: '^' indicates the beginning of a
line so that the first example will only consider lines that
begin with "from:"; '.' is a single-character wildcard that
will match any character (that's why when we really want a '.',
we have to precede it with a '\' as we've done in the above
examples); and '*' means that the pattern should match an
arbitrary number of characters matching the character
immediately before it in the expression (in the first example,
you can see that we use it to allow there to be an arbitrary
number of spaces between "From:" and "beavis" and in the second
example, we've used it after the '.' wildcard so that there can
be an arbitrary number of characters of any kind between
"Newsgroups:" and "alt"). More about regular expressions and
killfiles can be found by typing "man rn" and "man ed" at your
Unix prompt.
Is there any copyright on this FAQ?
Yep; the entire contents of this FAQ is written and maintained
by Trygve Lode (tlode@nyx.net) and is (c) Copyright 2000. Feel
free to copy, transmit, and distribute this FAQ in unmodified
form for any not-for-profit use in any medium you desire
(electronic, print, interpretive dance, etc.). If you wish to
include all or part of the FAQ in any for-profit publication or
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