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Subject:    4-14.   Why is there so much violence in sXe?

    On 28 Aug 1998 Stew  wrote:
    "I am a passive sXe.  I believe that fighting is more sissy than 
    talking it out, because when you compromise, you have to give 
    something up.  Figthing is just plain selfish because you dont want 
    to be proven wrong.  I never want to fight anyone.  That is why I 
    always carry a gravity knife with me, so If someone fucks with me, 
    than I can wipe them out quickly (although i hope I will never have 
    to!)  The hardcore dancing can be violent sometimes, and that may 
    have something to do with it.  Also, since we take things so 
    seriously, then we dont want to fuck around, and we get to business."

    On 30 Dec 1998  wrote:
    "because kids are dumb....actually, that's mostly the kids who are 
    sXe so they can hate more people. Don't use the actions of some 
    foolish examples to judge the whole group. I could say "why is there 
    so much violence in christianity (or islam, or the USA, or any other 
    group for that matter)"

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Subject:    5.      About the people

    This section tries to present a human face to the straight-edge. Here 
    you'll meet some of the kids who are part of the straight-edge
    community on the Internet. 

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Subject:    5-1.    What do you guys wear?

    On 12 Jul 1998 Jeff Cristiani  wrote:
    "Don't listen to what anyone here is telling you.  Dress for yourself, 
    and don't judge others by what they are wearing, unless they are 
    wearing the clothing of exploitation (and even then, don't judge them, 
    just know that they are ignorant to other people's suffering)"

    On 14 Aug 1998 Chad McMann  wrote:
    "Why all the corporate crap? Sure, some of it's unavoidable, but Nike
    Windbreakers and shoes?  Champion sweat shirts? Yeah, support the
    corporate sweat shops and union busters! that's really helping the
    world...I'm not going to mention what I wear, because the only 
    important thing is the x's on my hands...To any newcomers reading 
    this, please don't take these answers as rules. It doesn't matter 
    what you wear, and there's no reason in the world to go out of your 
    way to find certain corporate shit."

    I'm currently wearing a stussy sweat shirt under a birdhouse 
    skateboards t-shirt with "I love cigarette smoke in my face", a pair 
    of XL Fuct jeans, a pair of black Etnies, and my trusty Billabong
    snowboarding backpack. Under my NY baseball cap I sport a marine
    haircut.

    On 28 Jul 1997 Beverly  wrote:
    "Well, I don't exactly wear the typical sXe dress. I mean I got my 
    little neckalce with the XXX on it, got the beads god knows where. 
    It really doesn't matter that much. I guess I am kind of into the 
    mod/glamour/riot/rude grrl style. I don't know, that is what people 
    tell me i guess. It just depends, like when I skate I got the etnies 
    or whatever. The shorts, but hen of course, I guess we might be
    different, cause well, I am a girl. But umm, if you wanna know I
    just go fer the pants, like nice ones, polyester, whatever, just
    rolled up, or the right length kind of 50's style, the whole little 
    Gidgit beach scene. Got my shirts, they fit. I don't know, just 
    like to have a lot of style. Got short hair, bleached blonde. I don't
    know, like this is helping anything. I hate shorts, they suck. OH 
    yeah, and about that leisure suit, try the Salvation Army or 
    Goodwill, they have tons of them lying around, of if you want a bit 
    nicer one, I'd try a vintage shop, just don't let them rip you off."

    On 28 July 1997 X GLEN CONFRONT X  wrote:
    "I usually just wear some baggy shorts, t-shirt, and low top vans.
    Whatever suits you is cool."

    On 27 July 1997 xDeltaT.A.C.x  wrote:
    "It doesn't matter how you dress in the HC scene. As long as your 
    loyal to HC then I respect you. If you must know, I myself wear
    baggy ass pants with HC band shirts or sXe shirts. Basketball
    jerseys are the best for me. I skate, so I wear DC skate shoes
    (torn up) and skateboarding shirts.  That's me. Oh, and I have a 
    shaved head because I got sick of my long ass skater hair. I've
    seen alot of HC kids wear just about anything. So choose what you 
    like but be loyal."

    On 27 July 1997 Porcell  wrote:
    "Shirt: any old HC band shirt in good condition. It isn't cool to 
    wear new shirts, you know. Look for these bands Project X (my
    old band), Youth Of Today tour 88' shirt, Judge Schism logo, Bold 
    shirt with Crippled Youth logo on back, Chain Of Strength "true 
    till death" design, NFAA "NO" design, Wide Awake 7" design, and 
    anything from 80-83. Thrasher shirts are rad, too.

    "Shorts (for the summer): This is crucial! They have to have cargo 
    pockets, and usually tan is the best. But nothing beats a
    good pair of camo shorts. But don't be a dirtbag and cut pants, 
    buy them as shorts. Make sure you wear a belt, too.

    "Pants (for the winter): Another crucial item! I hardly ever wear 
    pants, but when it comes time, it has to be either tight-ish (not 
    too tight, though) blue jeans, a little rolled at the bottom, camo 
    pants, or cargo pants(tan, of course). As always, you want a belt 
    with them. Don't cut the bottoms either!

    "Shoes: Alright, you have some choices here. Air Jordan's are 
    probably the best because you can do the highest kicks and dives 
    with them. Yo, check out Matt Pinkus on the Judge lp, you think 
    that's possible with any shoe? Other hightops work good too, but 
    make sure it's Nike! I like Chuck Taylor's too. For those of you 
    who prefer lowtops, it's either youth crew Nikes (check out Al SSD 
    on "get it away"), or Vans low tops (black, blue, checkered, or 
    two-tone). I have seen some with the New Balances, and they are 
    pretty comfortable.

    "Jacket: Man, this is important! Either Stussy or Nike windbreaker, 
    or a Varsity Jacket.

    "..Don't forget the hair! Crew cut, Alex Pain, or shaved, it has to 
    be neat! Gel is optional. If you have an X Swatch lying around, put 
    it on!"

    On 28 July Schism Ray  wrote:
    "the MOST CRUCIAL item of them all - the motherfucking CHAMPION 
    HOODED SWEATSHIRT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just make sure it's 
    the pull over one, not the zip-up one! and remember, only Champion 
    is acceptable!!! also, for that extra special youth crew look, you 
    can wear white long johns under your camo shorts when the cold 
    weather sets in. if you are in a band (especially the guitarist/bassist) 
    you also have to wear wristbands - you know, the athletic ones. that 
    should solve all of your dress problems!!!"

    On 03 Dec 1997 Sikander  wrote:
    "I guess I wear skateboarder clothes, just t-shirts and jeans or cargo 
    pants. when it's cold either a sweatshirt or a windbreaker. nothing 
    special. as long as it's vegan."

    On 17 Nov 1998 xrichx  wrote:
    "I wear overalls sometimes, gap wide-leg jeans often, camo pants
    sometimes,running shoes or synthetic-leather work shoes and I love 
    wearing my xturning pointx t-shirt and some days I wear a sweater-vest 
    over my shit and I like my izod windbreaker and alot of times I just 
    wear checkered bell-bottoms w/ zip-up beatle boots and a shirt that 
    zips up the front"

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Subject:    5-2.    What's with the tattoos and stuff?

    Many straight-edgers tattoo slogans of their beliefs on their bodies. 
    This signifies the commitment they have made to those ideals, which 
    like the tattoos are a lifetime commitment.

    Tattoos and piercing are part of the punk/hardcore subculture so its 
    going to be found in straight-edge also. 

    However, when you're planning to get a tattoo you need to think not 
    only about what its going to say but also how its going to look. 
    Remember its going to be with you for a long time so its worth the 
    effort to make sure you'll like it in ten years time.  For more 
    information see the rec.arts.bodyarts Usenet news group, the Tattoo 
    FAQ, and the Piercing FAQ. Both are available via anonymous FTP at
    .

    On 15 Apr 1997 Justin  wrote:
    "A body modification will not change your mindset, make you act any
    different, or effect you in any negative way, so I don't see
    any contridiction with a sXe life style.  I think there would be a
    lot less straight edges in this world if a tattoo or body 
    piercing disqualified you from said lifestyle."

    On 9 Jan 1997 refuge  wrote:
    "i think the best one i've ever seen was in a show in upstate new 
    york...this guy took off his shirt for his friend, and instantly a 
    crowd gathered...he had a full-back piece that looks like it took weeks 
    to do. it said "straightedge" in old english letters about 3-4" per 
    character on his upper back, then the rest of his back was covered with 
    the most intricate, detailed tree i've ever seen. it was beautiful.
    tattoos fucking rule!"

    On 9 Jan 1997  wrote:
    "got one... the youth of today fist on my left leg."

    On 9 Jan 1997 Ryan  wrote:
    "Personally, I don't think injecting ink into your skin is very sXe."

    On 9 Jan 1997 refuge  wrote:
    "i have three collegate/strife/youthcrew X's on my leg. i dig them.
    my brother, brian got the phattest fucking straightedge tattoo...
    my mom took him out to get it (he's only 16)...man, it's these 
    three story-book font looking black (about 2 inches big) x's with
    all these green vines wrapping around them, connecting them 
    together. the tattoo is the best... he only payed 90 bucks for it
    and the work is esquisite, much unlike my own...i need touch up 
    work, but i love them...i'm planning on another one soon. 
    totally addictive."

    On 9 Jan 1997 Bhaskar Sinha  wrote:
    "the last line is quite ironic..."

    On 9 Jan 1997 X Natalia X  wrote:
    "I like Teresa Brat's tattoo-it's a dragon with "poison free xxx"
    in oriental-type letters. It's bootiful. I don't have any though-
    I'm just gonna stick with my EF! fist and monkeywrenches..."

    On 10 Jan 1997 XConradx  wrote:
    "my brother took me to get my sXe tattoo in the summer. it's 3 x's with
    "straight-edge" written below it. on my upper thigh(so my parents don't 
    see it, i'm only 16) it's nothing special artwise but it means a lot to 
    me.  oh boy do i plan to get more!"

    On 10 Jan 1997 eirix  wrote:
    "My friend has two carrots in a cross with an x in the middle (vegan
    edge..) it rocks"

    On 10 Jan 1997 elvis  wrote:
    "I have a band of creepy trees arond my leg which form letters...
    V.E.G.A.N. I'm a REAL rock and roller."

    On 10 Jan 1997 XstraightedgeboyX  wrote:
    "I like tattoo's as well, I have a Crass logo on my arm not sXe
    I know but cool all the same. Tattoo do fucking rule!! I want 
    another but don't know what to get any ideas??"

    On 03 Jul 1997 Leaf  wrote:
    "Gods... don't you love a good Mystery?  This second tat of mine... 
    this snake.. has affected me in really profound ways.  I keep wanting
    to share it, explain it, put words to it... but of course, the
    essence of Mystery is not being able to put words to the experience.

    "This tattoo has changed me.  Not changed, exactly.  Clarified me, made
    me *more* me.  It changes my appearance in such a way that my outside
    is more in harmony with what's inside of me.

    "The experience is so profound, that I've been joyfully telling my
    friends and family "tattoos are cheaper, faster, and prettier, than
    therapy" ."

    XjeffX has "X straight edge X" tattooed across his back and comments:
    "What does my tatoo mean to me. Well, in short, my tatoo symbolizes 
    my life long commitment to being Straight Edge. The symbols we mark 
    our bodies with are not adolescents just "having fun" but rather 
    marking ourselves as pure individuals. We don't go out and get dumb 
    butterfly tatoo's just because they look cool. Our symbols stand for
    what we feel and what we will feel for the rest of our lives. No 
    other commitment comes close to the dedication involved with Straight 
    Edge. I'm proud to be Straight Edge. Not many have the dedication it 
    takes to be clean their whole lives. And this is not just some fad 
    that kids go through. Maybe for the kids who just want to stay clean 
    until they are 21, this is just a fad, but for the TRUE Straight 
    Edgers, this commitment is lifelong. Just like tattoos." [6]

    On 18 Dec 1997 AWAP  wrote:
    "A friend of mine, a tattoo artist who will remain nameless, got one 
    of the COOLEST sXe tattoos I've ever seen. After he got out of 
    the sXe crowd and started smoking pot, he had SELLOUT tattooed 
    inside his lip."

    On 17 Nov 1998 Dominic Henning  wrote:
    "Ive got one straight sdge tattoo on the small of my back.  Its about 
    a year old.  Its three bold X's going form black to red to yellow all 
    shaded.  Then theres a schrol that reads "true til death"  I love it.
    It is in a place not that many people can see cos it's for me and me 
    only.  Just like straight edge.  If other people see it, it;s ok, and 
    i'm proud, but its mainly for me.  I resently got two japanese kanji 
    symbols right above it.  They could be interpreted as sXe tattoos cos 
    they stand for "true, really sinsere, and proud"  I love tattoos  and 
    i think sXe is like a tattoo in your mindset, so why not get it 
    inscribed on you for life."

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Subject:    5-3.    Who's who of apse?

    elliott

    On 09 Jul 1997 elliott  wrote:
    "My full name is jason elliott, I was born on Nov 24 1974, and live
    in Dallas (The Wilkes Berre/Scranton) area of PA. I publish zines
    (right now it's called Hellcat) but I have a hard time sticking to one 
    name. I've been involved in hardcore/punk rock since 1989, but I'm not 
    one of those people who sit and talk about how cool it was "back in
    the day" or whatever. I think punk rock needs more activism and a
    better sense of humor...on Irc my nick is Lucky_13."

    Elvis
    
    On 10 Jul 1997 "Elvis..."  wrote:
    "Um...Self proclaimed vegan warrior."

    On 11 Jul 1997 "Elvis..."  wrote:
    "xgerryedgex lives in a secluded heritage house in Victoria BC where 
    he spends his time playing dumbass computer games (mostly real-time
    strategy) when he's not working. He is the friendliest vegan on the
    west coast, and he is full to the brim with integrity.
    He does sing in a band as of July 1st and he is hoping that it will 
    be called MonkyBoy. He hopes...
    He does a zine and distro under the name of xburn it cleanx and hopes
    to start a label in the near future.
    He is married to a beautiful woman that he calls dench, and together
    they have three cats...which are all the family they need.
    He loves to talk about religion and spirituality and their place in
    a modern HC society, as well as all things pertaining to sexuality.
    Try him out...he loves it.
    His all time favourite band is Trial, who are second only to Bane and
    sometimes Earthmover...depending on the day.
    He will do shows for touring bands solely because he likes bands and
    most of the sounds they can make.
    Do not be fooled into believing he is a HC kid only, because
    xgerryedgex has vast musical tastes ranging from Elvis to the
    Replacements...

    "All in all xgerryedgex is a damn good guy. Visit his web page at
     or email him at
    ."

    spitbrother

    On 24 Jul 1997 Ralf Sandner  wrote:
    "uuh. emm, real name is Ralf, age is 32, got involved with Punk at 14 
    in 1979, putting up gigs in Stuttgart/Germany since 1989, writing for 
    PLOT fanzine, constantly playing in bands since 1980...
    like punk of course ;-)
    hate the bad apects of punk today: major label sellouts, sXe jocks, 
    gang bullshit in hardcore, the heroin revival in the crust scene...
    racism, fascism, sexism, homophobia becoming tolerated in parts of
    the scene(s).
    the scene here is pretty much divided... i, among some other older 
    guys, am the only one who visits mostly all kind of shows (as long 
    as they are not by major label acts) which can qualify as "punk"...
    so on every show i see faces who will never come to shows of the
    other clique... you have 77 style gigs, hardline sXe, moderate sXe, 
    emo, "new york" hardcore, crust and hardly never the crowds mix...
    on the other hand you have the kids who watch mtv and they just go 
    to every "punk" band on a major, without finding out that there is 
    another scene...

    check http://www.diy-punk.org/spitbrother/ for some more info about me"

    Sikander

    On 03 Dec 1997 Sikander  wrote:
    "ok. my name is sikander, I'm vegan sXe. I listen to all kinds of 
    hardcore, but I like old school the best. my favorite bands right 
    now are ten yard fight, ensign, and youth of today. I'm from michigan 
    where the hardcore scene is kinda crappy, but in the summer lots of 
    good bands stop by here. I also skateboard, which I've been doing for 
    4 years.  I've got a homepage but it sucks right now, all there is 
    right now is hardcore reviews, I will be working on it during winter 
    break though., so here's the URL: http://www.msu.edu/~khansika."


    Lars

    Hi. I'm the kid who looks after this FAQ for ya. I live Sydney,
    Australia with my lovely wife, our very cute son and two kittens. 
    I'm an eclectic mix of old school and new school. I like my Xs big.

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        Lars Norved     
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