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Subject: 16) Mailing Lists: "Pak-scholars", "Pak-students" &  EML  

PAK-STUDENTS:
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	By: Ihsan Khan  June 25, 1994
	Subject: up_date_for SCP FAQ
	Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 17:56:11 +0100


Dear fellow Pakistani Student/Scholar,

        Assalam'alaikom

We are pleased to inform you that a mailing lists  PAK-STUDENTS has
been setup. The purpose this lists is to provide an educational forum
to the Pakistani students  on  which they  can cooperate and help each
other on academic matters, such as, technical subject advise, information  
about  admission  and funding, etc.

In order o subscribe to  the  list,  please  send  a  request to

		pak-students-request@info.com.pk


with Subject :	Subscribe PAK-STUDENTS

and provide the following details in the message:


Full Name          :
Email Address      :
Name of Univ.      :
Course             :
Year of Study      :
Home Institute     : 


EDUCATION MAILING LIST (EML)
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	A mailing list for Pakistani educator or anyone interested in
	Education Reform in Pakistan. To be included, send email to:
	
	Tariq Cheema 


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Subject: 17) U.S. Immigration Info 

	GENERAL INFO

	Newsgroup: alt.visa.us
	Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) are very helpful. There are 
	several parts to it. These documents may be obtained from any
	of the following sites.
	
        Anonymous FTP:

        1. SITE:        rtfm.mit.edu
           Directory:   /pub/usenet/news.answers/us-visa-faq

        2. SITE:        ftp.uu.net
           Directory:   /pub/usenet/news.answers/us-visa-faq

	Files: part1  part2  part3  part4  part5  part6

	

	DV-1 Lottery: Deadline  - June 30 1994
	
	Information may be obtained by sending a request to Pakistan 
	News Service (Pakistan@asuacad.bitnet)

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Subject: 18) U.S. Embassy/Consulates in Pakistan &  Pakistan Visa Info
 


This section is from the document '/Internet Resources/US-State-Department-Travel-Advisories/Current-Advisories/pakistan'.

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL INFORMATION - Pakistan
============================================================
Pakistan - Consular Information Sheet
 January 8, 1993

Embassy Location:  The U.S. Embassy is located in Islamabad, 
Diplomatic Enclave, Ramna 5, telephone (92-51) 826-161.  The 
Consular Section is located separately in the USAID building, 18 
Sixth Avenue, Ramna 5.  In Karachi, the U.S. Consulate General is 
located at 8 Abdullah Haroon Road, telephone (92-21) 568-5170.  In 
Lahore, the U.S. Consulate General is located on Sharah-E-Abdul 
Hamid Bin Badees (50 Empress Road), New Simla Hills, telephone 
(92-42) 365-530.  In Peshawar, the U.S. Consulate is located at 11 
Hospital Road, Peshawar Cantonment, telephone (92-521) 279-801/2/3. 


Entry Requirements:  A passport and visa are required.  The visa 
must be obtained from a Pakistani embassy or consulate before 
arrival at the point of entry.  Information on entry requirements 
can be obtained from the Embassy of Pakistan, 2315 Massachusetts 
Avenue, N.W., Washington, D.C., 20008; telephone (202) 939-6200.  
Travelers can  also contact the Pakistani Consulate General, 12 East 
65th St., New York, NY 10021; telephone (212) 879-5800. 

## NEW (Nov 94) ## 

Effective September 1, 1986 ALL US citizens require visa to visit 
Pakistan. This includes tourists. 

Pakistan Visa Fee is: $20.00 

## ##

Medical Facilities:  Adequate medical care is available in major 
cities in Pakistan, but may be limited in rural areas.  U.S. medical 
insurance is not always valid outside the United States.  Doctors 
and hospitals often expect immediate payment in cash for treatment.  
Supplemental health insurance which specifically covers overseas 
treatment has proved to be useful.  Additional information on health 
problems can be obtained from the Centers for Disease Control's 
international travelers hotline at (404) 332-4559.

Safe Trip Abroad" contains information on safeguarding valuables and 
protection of personal security which may be of use.  It is 
available from the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government 
Printing Office, Washington, D.C. 20402.

Drug Penalties:  Penalties for possession, use or trafficking in 
illegal drugs are strictly enforced.  Convicted offenders can expect 
jail sentences and fines.

Tips For Travelers:  The Department of State publication "Tips for 
Travelers to South Asia" contains general information on the area.  
It is available from the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. 
Government Printing Office, Washington D.C. 20402. 

Registration:  U.S. citizens who register at the U.S. Embassy in 
Islamabad or the Consulates General in Karachi, Lahore or Peshawar 
can obtain updated information on travel and security in Pakistan.

 No. 93-008


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Subject: 19) H-1 Visa Info: Mexico & Canada + H-4 Visa Info

H-1 VISA INFO: (Juarez Mexico)
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By:qqazi@nmsu.edu (Qadeer Ahmed Qazi) 23 May 1994 

Information on getting visa in Juarez, Mexico
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Jurez, Mexico is twin city of El Paso, 	Texas.  Reach in El Paso in the
evening and in the early morning go to Juarez, Mexico.  It is one day
project so you can plan to come back in the evening.

Juarez is kind of part of USA, you can always come back with valid I-94 if
some reason visa is rejected. Mostly not.

Be at the consulate at 6:00 AM, take following documents with you:

	1)	Valid passport
	2)	One photograph (if color then background should be white)
	3)	$ 100.00 fee if from India (No fee for Pakistanis)
	4)	Valid I-20
	5)	Documents for financial aid
	6)	Bank statement
	7)	Transcripts (of last semester)

Please do not say that you need visa to go to your home country, because
the answer would be simple "go and get new visa from there."  Mostly you 
would be done by 1:00 PM. If you are driving than stay in El Paso and go 
to Juarez in the morning.There is a secure parking beside consulate with
parking fee of $3.00.  If you are flying into El Paso, then reach  early 
and you can find a motel in Juarez.

An experience from a fellow is cited below:
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1. a. Juarez time = El Paso time (Mountain) (April - October)
   b. Juarez time = CST( 1 hour ahead of El Paso time in the other months
      of the year)
Lot of people there thought Juarez was 1 hour ahead as this was mentioned
so in the  old stories.

2. They processed and gave us the visas by 12.30 PM. The old story said
visas  will be given only after 3.30PM. That could be the case also. So
make flight arrangements so that you will have time to kill rather than
hurry and/or miss the flight.

3. It might be a good idea to carry an umbrella. There is no shelter outside the
consulate. Also, pack your papers in waterproof material. 

4. At the now famous 'Econo Lodge' they have a little discount for AAA members.

5. Econo Lodge number is 778 3311. Call from airport and they will pick you up. 

6. It is cheap but conveniently located.

7. You can talk to the front desk and they will arrange the transport to
the consulate. In fact, the lady at the front desk called and arranged a
pickup at 3.30 am in the  morning, without my haveing to enquire!!

In any case you can call Victor Garcia at 525 5341 and make arrangements.
He even has  a cellular phone. He charged $10/- apiece for 5 of us. 

8. Tips about filling application:

   a. Leave blank what you are not sure about:
	i. What is the purpose of your visit?
       ii. How long do you intend to stay in USA?
      iii. Do you intend to work in the USA(This is NA for H1 applicants)?
            etc.
   b. Put your home country address in the applicant's home address.

9. Opposite to the consulate there is are couple of stores which will let
you put your stuff in. 

10. Yesterday, at the least, the consulate security let us bring in our
briefcases or  small bags.

11. While coming back ask the Mexican cab to drop you at Mexican side of
border post. >From there walk for 5 mts to the INS visa center. 

Once you get your I-94 go ahead the USA side of the border and cabs will be
waiting.

12. Questions asked:
	a. What is your work?
        b. Where did you study?


H-1 VISA INFO (Canada)
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By: ajay@albali.cs.buffalo.edu Dec 3, 1993

Having obtained an H1 from Quebec yesterday, I guess I can jot down my
experiences here.

I have dealt with 3 consulates (Toronto, Ottawa and Quebec) in the past
few weeks, and my experiences with each are given below:
	- Toronto. Effective 15th Nov 1993, the Toronto Consulate will
	  take *5* WORKING days to process your application. So, unless
	  you have friends in Toronto, and don't mind a week's vacation 
	  there, avoid Toronto!! 

	- Ottawa. They don't take walk-in applicants. You simply have
	  to fix up an appointment over the phone, and when I called
	  in the early November, they gave me a date for Dec 7th.
	  I'm not sure, but I think they take atleast a day to process
	  your application.

	- Montreal. I haven't dealt with the Montreal consulate, but
	  rumor has it that they take 3-5 working days also.

	- Quebec City. They take 48 hours to process your app.
          They accept applications only on MWF, 9-11AM. Don't bother 
	  lining up at 6AM; the consulate opens at 9, and as long as
	  you get in before 11, it should be OK. The aren't that many
	  people waiting to get in anyways. The consulate is located
	  near the end of "Terrasse Dufferin" (the end further away
	  from Chateau Frontenac), and you can see the flag poles sticking
	  out at an angle above the doorways. (No flags on them at nite).
	       I went on a Monday, and there were about 12 people requesting
	  visas that day. However, when I went to pick up my passport
	  on wednesday, I saw only 1 guy handing in his passport. BTW: they
	  simply ignore your pleas to hand back the passport the same day;
	  don't bother even trying unless there are just a couple of people 
	  applying for visas.
	       If you are planning a trip to Quebec, I suggest you download
	  the file "StampingH1inNearAbroad" from the alt.visa.us FTP archives,
	  and read the post in there on how to get a visa at Quebec.


H-4 Visa Info:
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	H-4 visa is for the spouse of H-1 Visa Holder. There is no delay 
	or hold in this category. Spouse may apply any time after the 
	marriage, the whole process does not take more than couple of hours.

	Spouse need to take the following documents along to the consulate.

	a) His/Her own valid passport
	b) Nikah Nama (Marriage Certificate - English trans prefered)
	c) Two passport size pictures
	d) Other Spouse's passport with H-1 Visa already stamped on it.
	e) Letter from other spouse's employer confirming the empolyment
	   is current.
	f) Don't forget to take original H-1 letter along.



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Subject: 20) Baby Names!


Female: Razia,RabiaRukhi,ruksana,zeba,shamimara,Rubina,Rabia,Sara,Fouzia,
        Shumaila,Shazia,Shela,Hafza,Fara,Iram,Nadia
Male  :  AMIR,ASIM,ASLAM,ZAKI,ZUBAIR,SULEMAN,SALEM,FARAZ,ASAD,FARHAN
	 Nadir Sohail Shafiq Sohrab Shumail Noor Qarin


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Subject: 21) World Wide Web Home Pages on Pakistan  

I have put most of the home pages listed earlier under one home page
after checking to make sure they still exist. Please send your home
page URL on Pakistan for listing. Thanks.

Combined HOME Pages URL:

	http://alumni.caltech.edu/~mughal/pakistan/pakistan.html


--- Previously Listed Home pages ---

A- http://www.egr.uh.edu/~escco/Pakistan.html
   By Fazia Rizvi (st156@jetson.uh.edu)

B- http://www.rpi.edu/~ansars/paksa_locker/pak_mosaic/pakistan.html
   By Salman Ansari (ansars@rpi.edu)

C- http://www.wam.umd.edu/~ghori/
   By Ghanzanfar Khan Gori (ghori@wam.umd.edu)

D- http://cuda3.me.mtu.edu:8023/home/maxwell-a.ee/kmushtaq/.mosaic/pakistan/pakistan.html
   By Kamran Mushtaq (kmushtaq@mtu.edu)



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Subject: 22) USENET Statistics on Soc.Culture.Pakistan

	Per May '94 USENET statistics: Ranking:			316/3135
			  Estimated Readership:			 100,000

	April '94: 283/3190 ; 110,000 readership

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Subject: 23) Info on soc.culture.pakistan Reorganization

	[This is intended as a brief summary. Please read the separate FAQ 
	 on newly created soc.culture.pakistan.* newsgroups for details]

	After a year or so discussion on 'PakNet' mailing list and initial
proposal for open discussion. A proposal to expand soc.culture.pakistan with 
the addition of six subnewsgroups was presented on Nov 21, 1995. 

	A formal 'Call for Votes' was issued on Dec 13, 1995. The vote 
closed on Jan 2, 1996. After a second 'Call for Votes', all following
groups passed and have been created:

	Moderated:
 			soc.culture.pakistan.education
			soc.culture.pakistan.history
			soc.culture.pakistan.moderated

	UnModerated:
			soc.culture.pakistan.politics
			soc.culture.pakistan.religion
			soc.culture.pakistan.sports

More info on proposed newsgroups is as follows:

NEWSGROUP LINES:
soc.culture.pakistan.education	Education in Pakistan. (Moderated)
soc.culture.pakistan.history	History of Pakistan. (Moderated)
soc.culture.pakistan.moderated	Discussions on Pakistan. (Moderated)
soc.culture.pakistan.politics	Political discussions on Pakistan.
soc.culture.pakistan.religion	Religious discussions related to Pakistan.
soc.culture.pakistan.sports	Sports in Pakistan.

RATIONALE: all groups

The reorganization is being proposed to better address the diversity
of subjects and the needs of the readers which currently not being
served by unmoderated soc.culture.pakistan newsgroup.

The traffic on the unmoderated newsgroup soc.culture.pakistan has been
increasing steadily.  It has reached the point where any meaningful
discussion on any topic related to Pakistan is lost in the high
traffic & noise. Thus rendering the newsgroup inoperable & unusable
for serious readership. This situation is also driving serious
readership away from the newsgroup.  Current proposal is to rectify
this situation by proposing to reorganize the newsgroup into to a
number of moderated & unmoderated newsgroup based upon specific topics
of discussion.

In addition to the current traffic of over 200+ messages per day. In the
next few months, more usenet readers are coming on-line from Pakistan,
estimated 100,000+.

The current proposal is the essence of discussions held independently
by at least three separate groups of scp readers. All of them arrived
at the conclusion to split the newsgroup soc.culture.pakistan.

The proposed hierarchy is intented to provide a foundation for
subgroups under the hierarchy. The proposed subsgroups will focus on
specific topics on Pakistan and Pakistani culture.  This provides
medium to express and share ideas, in addition learn from others
experiences & knowledge.

MODERATION POLICIES: For all three moderated newsgroups:

        Namely, soc.culture.pakistan.education
                soc.culture.pakistan.history
                soc.culture.pakistan.moderated

The newsgroups in soc.culture.pakistan.hierarchy slated for moderation
will be moderated by one group of moderators.  The moderators
submission address & multiple moderation tools are in the process of
being setup.

The moderation will not be censorship, it is solely for:

		1.  keeping the discussion relevant to the topics
		2.  Keeping personal comments out.
		3.  keeping flame/flamebaits out
		4.  keeping discussion civilized.

Further, moderators will enforce standard USENET guidelines for
postings, that is,

		i)   No test messages
		ii)  No commercial messages
		iii) No anonymous postings
		iv)  Postings to be legible
		v)   Postings to be in proper format: (not more than
                     80 characters per line)
		vi)  Less than 50% quote text.


The moderators may resign at their own will or by unanimous vote of
other moderators if 1. They have no valid email address 2. Have been
inactive for over six months.  Additional moderators may be added by
unanimous vote of active moderators.

Changes in moderation team & calls for new moderators will be posted on
the newsgroups.

FACILITATORS: For all three moderated newsgroups:

        Namely, soc.culture.pakistan.education
                soc.culture.pakistan.history
                soc.culture.pakistan.moderated

Facilitators are advisors to moderators. Readers interested in advising
moderators and active in discussing moderation issues.  Unlike moderators
Facilitators will not have posting rights. Facilitators are nominated
by moderators by mutual agreement.


TECHNICAL MODERATOR: For proposed moderated newsgroups. Solely responsible
for technical aspects, including maintaining submission addresses, updating
moderators' lists, posting announcements on technical issues. Does not
review/post regular incoming articles.

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Subject: 24) Berkeley Urdu Language Program  

BERKELEY URDU LANGUAGE PROGRAM IN PAKISTAN 1997-1998

Background
The 25th Berkeley Urdu Language Program in Pakistan will provide 30 weeks
of Urdu instruction in two 15-week terms, with winter and spring breaks,
from September, 1997 through May, 1998.  Particularly well-qualified
persons unable to spend the entire academic year may apply for one term.
Independent scholars and faculty members who wish to improve their
knowledge of Urdu in conjunction with ongoing or planned research are
encouraged to apply.  This is strictly a language program.

Eligibility
Applicants must be citizens or permanent residents of the United States.

     Plan A:  Before beginning the program, applicants must have
completed at least two years of Urdu and/or Hindi, or the equivalent, and
should have a good knowledge of the Urdu script.  Students having completed
one year of Urdu and/or Hindi by June 1997 are eligible to apply if they
intend to take an intensive second-year summer Urdu/Hindi course at the
University of Washington, Seattle, or at the University of Wisconsin,
Madison during the summer of 1997.

     Plan B:  Urdu language instruction will be offered to a  limited
number of U.S. scholars conducting research in Pakistan.  We can
accommodate all levels of ability; private tuition may be secured on a
contingency basis.  We encourage American Institute of Pakistan Studies
fellows to use the BULPIP facilities.

Cost
The costs to all participants are a $25 application fee and a program fee of
$2,000 for the full academic year, or $1,300 for one term.  Other fees for
tuition, housing, round-trip air transportation, health insurance, and
other living expenses may be paid in the following ways:

     Plan A:  Intensive advanced language students may fund their
participation in one of three ways:

USIA/NMERTA funding:  Contingent upon funding by USIA, a number of full
fellowships will be awarded to US citizens enrolled in graduate degree
programs.  These will cover tuition, housing, round-trip
transportation to Pakistan, a maintenance allowance, and health insurance.
No provision is made for dependents.   The Center for South Asia Studies
awards the fellowships upon acceptance into the program.

FLAS fellowships:  If your home institution is a Title VI National Resource
Center, ask about Foreign Language and Area Studies (FLAS) fellowships.

Private funding.  Students may participate on the program using their own
funds.  Ask us about total costs. You must pay all expenses in the United
States before departing for Pakistan.

     Plan B:  Those interested in language training other than the
advanced program should contact us, giving specifics of the level and
degree of training required.  You must pay all expenses in the United
States, prior to departure for Pakistan.

Deadline
The application deadline is March 1, 1997.  Request applications and
additional information from

Berkeley Urdu Language Program in Pakistan
Center for South Asia Studies
University of California, Berkeley
10 Stephens Hall # 2310
Berkeley, CA  94720-2310

Tel: (510) 642-3608
Fax: (510) 643-5793
Email: udrebba@uclink4.berkeley.edu

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Subject: 25)    Urdu - Dictionary/Fonts/Software

DICTIONARY:
From: zia@dstos3.dsto.gov.au (Zia Ahmed)
Subject: Urdu Dictionary (Part 1)
Date: 3 Dec 1993 01:24:25 GMT

				    Alphabet
				    --------
Vowel Pronunciation Key
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a  : "u" in "but"
aa : "a" in "far"
e  : "e" in "bed"
i  : "i" in "fit"
ee : "ee" in "feet"
o  : "o" in "code"
u  : "u" in "put"
oo : "oo" in "booed"
au : "ow" in "how"
ai : "ei" in "neighbor"
Notes:  1. ' indicates a glottal stop (pronounced like "uh") in very careful
-----      speech. Normally, however, it is not pronounced at the beginning
	   of a word and in other positions it represents 'aa'.
	2. The combination 'ah' at the end of a word is pronounced like 'aa'
	   or 'e'. For example: 'jagah' could be 'jagaa' or 'jage', i.e., the
	   h is silent.
	3. The combination 'ah' or 'aH' in the middle of a word is pronounced
	   like 'e'.
	4. n. (n period) indicates nasalization.
	5. a - is used to distinguish between sh and s+h, kh and k+h, etc.
 
Letter	  Transcription				Remarks
------	  -------------				------- 
'alif	 :	a	   Could also stand for an unspecified initial vowel
be	 :	b
pe	 :	p	   Does not occur in Arabic
te	 :	t	   Used in native words
Te	 :	T	   Does not occur in Arabic and Persian
se	 :	s	   Used in loan words
jeem	 :	j
che	 :	ch	   Does not occur in Arabic
baRi he  :	H	   Used in loan words
khe	 :	kh
daal	 :	d
Daal	 :	D	   Does not occur in Arabic and Persian
zaal	 :	z	   Used in loan words
re	 :	r
Re	 :	R	   Does not occur in Arabic and Persian
ze	 :	z	   Used in native words
zhe	 :	zh	   Does not occur in Arabic
seen	 :	s
sheen	 :	sh
saad	 :	s	   Used in loan words
zaad	 :	z	   Used in loan words
to-e	 :	t	   Used in loan words
zo-e	 :	z	   Used in loan words
ain	 :	'	   Could also stand for an unspecified initial vowel
ghain	 :	gh
fe	 :	f
qaaf	 :	q
kaaf	 :	k
gaaf	 :	g	   Does not occur in Arabic
laam	 :	l
meem	 :	m
noon	 :	n
vaa-o	 :	w	   Stands for oo/o/au at the end of a word. In the
			   middle it could stand for w/oo/o/au
chhoTi he:	h	   Used in native words
chhoTi ye:	y	   Stand for ee/e/ai at the end of a word. In the
			   middle it could stand for y/ee/e/ai
baRi ye	 :	y	   Occurs only at the end of a word and stands for
			   e or ai

URDU FONTS:
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Date: Mon, 06 Nov 1995 13:12:05 -0500 (EST)
From: ABBASS SYED AKBAR <93abbass@wave.scar.utoronto.ca>

You can find urdu/persian fonts at the following site ;

	http://tehran.stanford.edu 

and look under PERSIAN EDITORS. There is one called PARSNEGAR. You can 
even download a demo. In addition if you browse around through the WEB 
pages on that site you


URDU SOFTWARE:
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Subject: Urdu Software call 800-308-8883
Date: 28 Sep 1994 14:04:36 GMT

Yes call this # if u are looking for an Urdu software. 1-800-308-8883.

 


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Subject: 26) This FAQ: Archive Info, History & Credits 

ARCHIVE INFO:
	This FAQ is archived & availble thru anonymous FTP & world-wide web.

        Anonymous FTP:

        1. SITE:        rtfm.mit.edu
           Directory:   /pub/usenet/news.answers/pakistan/faq

        2. SITE:        ftp.uu.net
           Directory:   /pub/usenet/news.answers/pakistan/faq


        Word-Wide Web:
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URL for USENET FAQs:
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/top.html

URL for this FAQ:
www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/pakistan/faq


HISTORY:

V 1.0	Released Dec 25, 1993
V 1.1   Released Jan 31, 1994  Expanded to 11 Items, new items: #3,#9,#10,#11
V 1.2   Released Feb 18, 1994  New items in # 11, # 12  Total items 13 
V 1.3 	Released Mar 10, 1994  New Items in # 11, # 13. Total items 15 
V 1.4   Released Apr 04, 1994  New item # 14, 		Total items 16
V 1.5   Released Apr 29, 1994  Format Touchups
V 1.6   Released May 06  1994  New items # 1 & # 17 [Auto posting]
V 1.7   Released May 06  1994  
V 1.8   Released Jun 26  1994  New item #16,#17,#18.Addtions to #21.
V 1.9   Released July 04 1994  New item # 18 & #21, #22 updated 
V 2.0   Released Nov  18 1994  Expanded # 10, #18, New # 22
V 2.1   Released Oct  05 1995  Updated WWW entry. 
V 2.2 	Released Mar  26 1996  Updated #10, #19 & #25. New #23 & #24
V 2.3   Released Feb  14 1997  Updated headers,

CREDITS:

As noted by each item.


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